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Wish I had found this site sooner...

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Post by Riften » 19 May 2016 03:41

The title says it all. I had been browsing around the local Frys maybe two and a half years ago, wondering what to do to alleviate my lack of drive space for the desktops and my server testbed, when I spotted the Western Digital EX4 16tb NAS for about a $1000. Reading the box, I thought, this would be great, ISCSI for the server, shares for the family, tons of space. Spend the money and issue is solved. Yes it worked, but not fast. And I kept wondering what would happen if the NAS broke and I had those raid 5 drives that I cannot read without another identical NAS.

Well, fast forward to mid last year; I found this site and remembered an old Asus A8N32-SLI Delux with 4gigs ram and an FX-60 CPU sitting in my junk pile down in the garage. That actually worked great with a couple old drives attached as a test but I really needed more than 4gb ram if I was to use ZFS with larger drives. The CPU was 64bit but the board was 32 so 4 gigs was it's max. Next I tried N4F on a newer retired board, my EVGA 790i Ultra SLI with 8gigs ram, then an Asus A88x-PRO that I had. Those also worked, but being a bit worried about the non ecc ram, I virtualized N4F in my ESXI host that has ecc ram. I used an inexpensive 4 port SATA card in ESXI passthrough, to expose its four 3tb drives directly to N4f. This worked with no issues for about 8 months. Well, I finally decided to build a box and un-virtualize it. Being that the Asus M5A99FX-PRO R2 I was running ESXI on was rock stable 24/7 for well over 2 years and did flawless passthrough, supports ecc ram, is inexpensive and takes inexpensive CPUs, I went with the same motherboard. Set it up with the FX 6300 and 16 gigs ECC, cheap video card and case. I just moved the 4 Toshiba drives that were on the SATA card in the existing 'server' to the new box, put N4F on a stick, setup the 3 NICs (onboard for management/shares, dual Intel card for MPIO iscsi on two different networks), imported my settings and bingo done. Nice. About the same cost as the WD NAS, but so much faster and configurable. I will probably put my SATA card in it at some point and move the four 4tb drives in the WD over and make a second ZFS pool once I get all its data copied over to the N4F box. Will need to research that more. So I took a pic and thought I would share my positive experience with N4F. BTW this is the first time I used a case for a PC in like 6 years. I build my gaming rigs and test 'servers' on a test bench (big 5-shelf utility rack with motherboard trays and drive trays zip tied on it LOL) but found this case ok but it needs more drive bays so I zip tied one more in.

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Supermicro X10SL7-F, Intel Xeon E3-1241 v3, 3.5 GHz
32gigs Pacific Sun ECC 1600MHz
4x Toshiba 3TB NAS drives, 4x Toshiba 4TB NAS drives: ZFS stripped mirrors
4 port Intel NIC
Thermaltake V71 Case (yea it's huge) & EVGA 650W PSU

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Post by kenZ71 » 20 May 2016 15:18

Looks good. I found NAS4Free under similar circumstances a few years ago. Been quite happy with it.
11.2-RELEASE-p3 | ZFS Mirror - 2 x 8TB WD Red | 28GB ECC Ram
HP ML10v2 x64-embedded on Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4150 CPU @ 3.50GHz

Extra memory so I can host a couple VMs
1) Unifi Controller on Ubuntu
2) Librenms on Ubuntu

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Post by armandh » 25 May 2016 06:46

I started back in the FN-6? days when the live CD and floppy for the config was the way to go.
a step up from the NSLU2. I've lost hardware, I've lost drives, but I have never lost any data.
Oh crap, I have likely jinxed my self
4 thread 3300 Mhz Intel i3, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 7.823 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free 9.1.0.1 rev 573 [88 watts, 48 Mbps]
2 thread 1600 Mhz atom/ion, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 3.083 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free-9.1.0.1 rev 573 [27 watts, 35 Mbps]
2 thread 3900 Mhz AMD A6-6400K, 2 TB ZFS Mirror, available RAM 7.557 Gb, 64 bit Nas4Free 9.3.0.2.1771 [89 watts, 68 Mbps]

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Re: Wish I had found this site sooner...

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Post by zoon01 » 20 Jun 2016 09:09

armandh wrote:I started back in the FN-6? days when the live CD and floppy for the config was the way to go.
a step up from the NSLU2. I've lost hardware, I've lost drives, but I have never lost any data.
Oh crap, I have likely jinxed my self
Lovely story Riften!

I started back in the day on FreeNAS 0.6 too, remembering using 3x 320GB drives on an Intel PIII 600mhz and also a floppy drive :D
Not much later to build on new hardware. So far never have lost a drive or my data too.
Those where funny days to start with old hardware that was laying around and doing nothing.
Now I'm so used to my NAS that I can't imagine to have non.
System specs: XigmaNAS 11.2.0.4 -embedded on Samsung 860 EVO 256GB and Supermicro X10SL7-F w / Bios v3.2, IPMI v.03.84 / CPU E3-1241 v3 @ 3.50GHz - 32GB Crucial DDR3L 1600mhz ECC 1.35v , LSI 2308 on PH20.00.07.00 IT mode, Storage: 5x Western Digital Red (WD30EFRX) raidz

Development system is same system in virtualbox.

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Post by armandh » 12 Jul 2016 12:29

zoon01 wrote: So far never have lost a drive or my data too.
Those where funny days to start with old hardware that was laying around and doing nothing.
Now I'm so used to my NAS that I can't imagine to have non.
So true !!
the ease and convenience of backing up to NAS, the storage of files such they are available any where on one's LAN,
as these things become so integrated in to ones computer use, one almost forgets the appliance providing the convenience.
also
as time passes I've forgotten the 3 days of struggle getting that first home built NAS running,
or how much faster modern hardware is when it comes to big file transfers.

all the old X-86 hardware has been given away save the last 3 pieces. a P-4, once the N4F top of the line hardware,
now sits in the "give away" pile, too slow and power hungry for 24/7 NAS use, when a 2 core 64 bit choice is also surplus.

but we have seen this cycle at the end of XP. Now, win 10 will push good running hardware to the side in favor of 4 or more cores.
[though not with the same urgency, as 10 runs tolerably well on an i3 but way better on 2X quad Xeon]
There are interesting choices for the starter NAS at this point in the hardware cycle.

N4F is still the perfect use for good running hardware just replaced in a need for speed.
simply put, the needs of today's file handling [NAS] works well on the just retired hardware.

and while the likes of Ars-Technica tout build lists for bargain, hot-rod, and god like builds....
I ad my choice for the best used/refurbished deals on e-bay.
bare bones HP Z-600 dual quad Xeon, add a drive load the OS.... booting win-10 in 15 seconds like a hot i7
sadly a little too power hungry for 24/7 NAS use
4 thread 3300 Mhz Intel i3, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 7.823 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free 9.1.0.1 rev 573 [88 watts, 48 Mbps]
2 thread 1600 Mhz atom/ion, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 3.083 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free-9.1.0.1 rev 573 [27 watts, 35 Mbps]
2 thread 3900 Mhz AMD A6-6400K, 2 TB ZFS Mirror, available RAM 7.557 Gb, 64 bit Nas4Free 9.3.0.2.1771 [89 watts, 68 Mbps]

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