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Rimini486
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Small, Silent NAS

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Recently I set up my first NAS System. Initially I thought about a HTPC with add-on NAS but the hardware seemed to expensive. Now a Raspberry is my HTPC (running raspbmc) and accessing the NAS4Free via SMB.
As you can probably already tell the main task of the NAS is to provide network access to media. Additionally I back up my pictures on it (the originals are on my HDD in the PC).

My case is the Fractal Design Define Mini (I have th R4 for my Desktop which works very well) and can hold up to 6 HDD on quiet storage and 2 more in the 5.25 trays.
The mainboard is the MSI C847MS-E33, NM70
- it does not support ECC which I now believe might have been a better choice, otherwise it would raise the price for the hole system quite a bit.
The RAM therefore is a cheap Crucial DIMM 4GB, DDR3-1600, CL11
Finally my power supply comes from a Mini-Box PicoPSU-80 with 80W. So far that seems sufficient as the peak for my system so far was around 45W.

The first batch of HDDs are
1x 3TB TOSHIBA DT01ABA300 out of an external drive
2x 3TB WD RED 30EFRX
Everything is running as vdev Raidz1 with currently 3 partitions on the zpool.

So far I am very satisfied! The Power usage is idle slightly above 20W and with disks running around 28W (higher of course when writing). Furthermore my transfer speeds are (in my perception and for my needs) awesome. I get around 70 mbit/s when copying from the NAS and around 40mbit/s when writing (I get around 90mbit/s when I copy stuff between different HDD in my PC).

Currently I'm thinking about three topics:
1. Should I have gotten an ECC mainboard and RAM? What are your opinions?
2. How will I expand my NAS when the time comes? Raidz1 and Raidz2 are not really expandable. Should I get a fourth HDD and better just use Raid1 (at the moment this would easily be possible, as I still have enough external space to store the media data currently on the NAS).
3. In order to expand I will need a SATA controller. I haven't found a list of definitely compatible ones which allow for disabling of any raid function (as of course the software should do that)
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My NAS:
Fractal Design Define Mini | PicoPSU-80 (80W) | MSI C847MS-E33 (Intel® Celeron 847/ 1.1 GHz/ Dual-Core) | Crucial 2x4GB 1600MHz
SATA Controller: Dawicontrol DC-324e
5x3TB as SnapRAID (4xWD 30EFRX, 1xTOSHIBA DT01ABA300)
1x1TB as backup for PC HDD

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Re: Small, Silent NAS

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Nice build...
I started similar way, but when my i5 2500K in my gaming PC packed up decided to use Z77 mobo for my NAS...
Instead of using the PCIE SAS controllers just get yourself a cheap Z77/Z68 mobo paired with low end Ivy Bridge CPU, many of them Z77/Z68 boards have 6-8 SATA connectors... Just have a browse on the eBay and I am sure you could fetch something for less than 80 GBP...
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Re: Small, Silent NAS

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1) It depends on how valuable the data is on your drives. If your memory goes bad it can destroy and files accessed.

2) You can for example get another 3 drives and create a raidz1 and add that to the existing pool.

3) the current go to controller is the ibm m1015. it has the best all round compatability. only spindown does not work out of the box.
Nas4Free 11.1.0.4.4517. Supermicro X10SLL-F, 16gb ECC, i3 4130, IBM M1015 with IT firmware. 4x 3tb WD Red, 4x 2TB Samsung F4, both GEOM AES 256 encrypted.

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Re: Small, Silent NAS

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Thank you for your insights.

Great to know that multiple vdevs can constitute one zpool. In that case yes, multiple raidz1 would work fine for me, in case of expansion. :D

Regarding the ibm m1015, it seems to be around 125€, isn't there a cheaper controller which one can use?
My NAS:
Fractal Design Define Mini | PicoPSU-80 (80W) | MSI C847MS-E33 (Intel® Celeron 847/ 1.1 GHz/ Dual-Core) | Crucial 2x4GB 1600MHz
SATA Controller: Dawicontrol DC-324e
5x3TB as SnapRAID (4xWD 30EFRX, 1xTOSHIBA DT01ABA300)
1x1TB as backup for PC HDD

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check ebay. they are around 90 euro.

i bought mine off amazon marketplace for 87 euro
Nas4Free 11.1.0.4.4517. Supermicro X10SLL-F, 16gb ECC, i3 4130, IBM M1015 with IT firmware. 4x 3tb WD Red, 4x 2TB Samsung F4, both GEOM AES 256 encrypted.

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Re: Small, Silent NAS

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After using my NAS for nearly a year now, I'm thinking of upgrading it a little bit.
I would probably add 2 3TB disks as a RAID5 array - for more important data I have a RAID1 1TB array in addition as backup from my Laptop and PC.

Recently I read some information about ZFS without ECC and became worried. So far nothing has gone wrong in my system and I've read one interesting comment wich suggests RAM is usually shipped broken but actually does rarely go bad within a system.
The question for me is now, do I set up the new RAID5 array as softwareRAID or again as raidz1? Does anybody have any suggestions? (Upgrading to ECC is not really a (financial) option at the moment - my next mainboard for the future would be the ASRock C2550D4I.)

The current upgrades are the following:
HDD Box for extra storage : Lian Li EX-23NB
Some cheap RAM (which I would check in my PC to make sure its not corrupted): Crucial DIMM 4GB, DDR3-1600, CL11
2x 3TB WD RED
And now the most interesting (as I'm not actually sure which one to get) a SATA controller:
Digitus DS-30104-1, PCIe x2
Dawicontrol DC-324e

b0ssman suggested the IBM SAS controller, I'm at the moment just not sure if I really need such an expansive one.
My NAS:
Fractal Design Define Mini | PicoPSU-80 (80W) | MSI C847MS-E33 (Intel® Celeron 847/ 1.1 GHz/ Dual-Core) | Crucial 2x4GB 1600MHz
SATA Controller: Dawicontrol DC-324e
5x3TB as SnapRAID (4xWD 30EFRX, 1xTOSHIBA DT01ABA300)
1x1TB as backup for PC HDD

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Re: Small, Silent NAS

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Don't use ZFS without ECC RAM! Never!
At least if you need your data.

I formerly had the Dawiconrol DC-624e which worked fine, but the IBM is the better choice.
NAS 1: Milchkuh: Asrock C2550D4I, Intel Avoton C2550 Quad-Core, 16GB DDR3 ECC, 5x3TB WD Red RaidZ1 +60 GB SSD for ZIL/L2ARC, APC-Back UPS 350 CS, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
NAS 2: Backup: HP N54L, 8 GB ECC RAM, 4x4 TB WD Red, RaidZ1, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
NAS 3: Office: HP N54L, 8 GB ECC RAM, 2x3 TB WD Red, ZFS Mirror, APC-Back UPS 350 CS NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded

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