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From N4F to XigmaNAS; let me count the ways

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was-armandh
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From N4F to XigmaNAS; let me count the ways

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Post by was-armandh » 05 Dec 2018 10:38

Untouched for years my various NAS were long overdue for an overhaul, the task is looking better and better with each success..
If one is upgrading hardware MOBO and drives just build it, test it,
copy the data to it, while It may take a day for the transfer, it is a good burn in
Then keep the old box around a bit until you are sure.
On the other end of the scale is just the OS upgrade, first back up the existing config,
Then install the XigmaNAS to a new boot medium, and restore the saved config,
[in shares] change the net-bios name if appropriate.
Success with the first two make the last three look easier.
They are however a bit more complicated, with OS upgrade and partial hardware improvements.
They will employ a combination of methods first and second above,
the last step retrieving data parked in the first new and larger build.
more stuff arriving tomorrow to begin phase two, reports to follow.
update
the main 4 are now Xi and in production, the two [old/slow]and now surplus boxes are slowly getting their upgrades/repairs.[done]
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Re: From N4F to XigmaNAS; let me count the ways

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Post by kenZ71 » 05 Dec 2018 20:28

I've also traveled similar paths from the early days of the fork from Freenas to present day.

Hearty thanks to the dev team & forum members for a fantastic product.
11.2-RELEASE-p3 | ZFS Mirror - 2 x 8TB WD Red | 28GB ECC Ram
HP ML10v2 x64-embedded on Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4150 CPU @ 3.50GHz

Extra memory so I can host a couple VMs
1) Unifi Controller on Ubuntu
2) Librenms on Ubuntu

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Re: From N4F to XigmaNAS; let me count the ways

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Post by NeilP » 07 Mar 2019 14:36

When keeping old hardware and just upgrading the OS..from Shigwire NAS4Free 9.2.0.1 ...

Will trying out XigmasNAS do anything to the current set of HDD's ? or will it just Import them,?

My current boot of NAS4Free is on an removable drive (not hot swap) IDE HDD caddy. SO i can pull the drive , stick in another caddy and install Zigmanas to the drive to test hardware...but i do not want it to change stuff on my hdd's so i cannot go back..

Current setup is a JBOD array of 4 drives making 4TB and a RADI 0 of some old 1TB drives. I only did these arrays for 'testing' / using up old drives but they seem reliable enough and became backup 'disks' So do not want their arrays to be changed in any way.


Sorry if my question is a bit stupid...I don't do this stuff much.

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Post by was-armandh » 08 Mar 2019 20:38

for no hardware change BUT the OS and boot medium,
assuming the hardware is 64 bit you should not have a problem [save the config first]
no harm should come to your data [or drives] without some direct action on your part.

second
I suggest putting XigmaNAS on a SSD [now under $25 for 120Gb HP] use name brand
use a PATA to SATA converter if necessary [under $10] [drive caddy may not work]
some of mine have the SDD just taped to the bottom of the case.
if you use double sticky foam strips wrap the center of each strip in aluminum foil
the foam is an extreme dielectric and unplugged the SSD could build up static.
[OK may be that is a bit over cautious] but a HDD that fits your caddy will be fine.

depending on the MOBO's BIOS ability to boot non MBR you may have to
[as I did in one instance] use the legacy ver [option] of XigmaNAS
all this [getting the new OS to boot on old hardware]
can be safely done with the data drive's data leads labeled and unplugged.

once booting, set the lan and IP, restore the config, turn off, re-plug the data drives, boot, enjoy
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Re: From N4F to XigmaNAS; let me count the ways

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Post by NeilP » 09 Mar 2019 08:49

Cheap SSD, yes might try one at some point. But I had a bit of a bike smash on July the 4th, over 8 months ago, so not back at work and not earning at the moment, so will stick to what I have. I have a box of spare caddy’s and more spare IDE drives than I’ll ever use.

I did bite the bullet and try, and yes, it did seem to run, the boot drive was an identical WesternDigital 40 gb

Had issues with network transfer speeds, went back to Shigwire and speed went up again. hmmm. jumbo frames, 1000base net, hardware exactly the same, but a test file of iPhoto library of 50 go estimated a copy time of 4 days at about 190kb/s ☹️☹️☹️
Shigwire does the copy in 3 hours. Still not good
This is a direct machine to machine connection via a single Cat 6 cable
Mac second Ethernet direct to NAS . Might re make the cable first

My NAS has a selection of drives, some mostly SATA, apart from boot drive . Some single SATA, a JBOD and a RAID 0 array. Just for my own satisfaction I am doing the same test iPhoto library to each HDD to compare speeds.

Because the boot is in swappable caddy, can go back to Xigmanas and try again.. I know I need to change my main user ID from 1000 to 1001, as I realise that caused me file permission errors last time when I used Mac Chronosync backup utility... old backup I created would not ‘compare’ as correct due file permission errors. So checked and found my main user I created with 1000 where as previously it was 1001.

Some tinkering to do, but Xig did discover and import my selection of drives, and did also import my old config correctly...

So will run a full backup from Mac to
NAS today as it has been a few months, play network cables as a first off, see what iPerf shows as connection speed.

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Re: From N4F to XigmaNAS; let me count the ways

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Post by was-armandh » 10 Mar 2019 02:49

Best wishes for a full recovery in every aspect of your life.

estimated times [with Acronis] often start very high and quickly drop.
see what they look like after 10 minutes.
by then it is some what closer to accurate

a lot like meteorologists; 100% accurate on yesterdays weather
accuracy improves the closer the prediction is to becoming a report.

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