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Recover from boot failure

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Post by Storms » 07 Jan 2019 18:37

Hi,

My nas4free machine won't boot.

At this point I'm not sure if the USB drive is faulty or the motherboard. Let's assume it's the USB drive for the purpose of this thread. My version of n4f is about a year old (upgraded).

Unfortunately I do not have a backup of the n4f configuration.

So assuming the USB drive is faulty, how do I recover?

Thanks
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3
CPU: AMD FX-6100 Six-Core Processor
Storage: 6 x 2TB Western Digital 3.5 hard drives
RAM: 32GB DDR3
Boot device: KINGSTON 120GB SSD (connected via PCI Card)
Redundancy: raidz2
Installation type: RootOnZfs

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Re: Recover from boot failure

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Post by was-armandh » 07 Jan 2019 23:24

let us not assume anything
will another computer boot the USB flash?
might be a bad bios battery reverting to not usb boot
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Re: Recover from boot failure

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Post by Storms » 07 Jan 2019 23:53

The reason I said let's assume the USB drive is bad is because I know how to replace a faulty motherboard and therefore do not need advice on how to do that!

However if the USB drive is bad then how do I recover?

I'm away from home at the moment so planning ahead
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3
CPU: AMD FX-6100 Six-Core Processor
Storage: 6 x 2TB Western Digital 3.5 hard drives
RAM: 32GB DDR3
Boot device: KINGSTON 120GB SSD (connected via PCI Card)
Redundancy: raidz2
Installation type: RootOnZfs

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Re: Recover from boot failure

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Post by raulfg3 » 08 Jan 2019 07:42

Storms wrote:
07 Jan 2019 23:53


However if the USB drive is bad then how do I recover?
Do a new fresh new install ( in a new boot device), and restore your previously saved config


If not saved config, you need to configure services from scratch.
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Re: Recover from boot failure

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Post by Storms » 08 Jan 2019 10:01

Thanks Raul.. I was just wondering since the last time I upgraded my n4f was about a year ago, if the latest version will work?

Not really fussed about having to restore services... Just want my data
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3
CPU: AMD FX-6100 Six-Core Processor
Storage: 6 x 2TB Western Digital 3.5 hard drives
RAM: 32GB DDR3
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Redundancy: raidz2
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Re: Recover from boot failure

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Post by raulfg3 » 08 Jan 2019 11:39

Yes, the latest version will work.


PD: his time consider to install ZFSonRoot to have the benefit of full install and the upgrades from webGUI like embedded.
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Re: Recover from boot failure

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Post by Storms » 08 Jan 2019 14:12

Thanks will do that.. will go for ZFSonRoot which sounds pretty good as you can upgrade from the GUI

So I think I need a new HD to do a full install
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3
CPU: AMD FX-6100 Six-Core Processor
Storage: 6 x 2TB Western Digital 3.5 hard drives
RAM: 32GB DDR3
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Redundancy: raidz2
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Re: Recover from boot failure

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Post by raulfg3 » 08 Jan 2019 16:42

Storms wrote:
08 Jan 2019 14:12
Thanks will do that.. will go for ZFSonRoot which sounds pretty good as you can upgrade from the GUI

So I think I need a new HD to do a full install
any small and cheap 2,5" disk from old laptop is really good for this (I use a 80GB in my install).

PD: If you do not want to waste one SATA port, use a good brand USB device to avoid premature damage, and save your config.xml, if fail in the future, only need to do the same that this time.
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Re: Recover from boot failure

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Post by Storms » 11 Jan 2019 22:49

OK, so Ive recovered my system and data.

Firstly, I was able to get the nas4free configuration file after successfully booting the old system after a few retries! Kept switching usb ports and one time it worked! so I backed up the conf, however didnt work on subsequent reboots so I was lucky there.

So the issue was with the motherboard, However seen as I had to do a new install anyway because my n4f version was too old to upgrade I thought I'd take Rauls advice and install as RootOnZFS on another HD.

Problem was I have no spare sata ports, so ordered a PCI-e card to expand my sata parts. Connected a 120GB SSD and installed RootOnZFS (obviously the latest version of xigmanas)

It all installed fine and I could boot fine and I restored the configuration but couldnt see my data (pool was missing).

To solve this I had to do the following:
1. Disks -> Management -> Check 'Clear configuration information before importing disks.'
2. Then click 'Import'

Also (from viewtopic.php?t=13093)
Go to: Disks > ZFS > Pools > Tools >
Select: "List or import pools" and hit "next"
Select: BOTH "Force Operation" AND "Search for and import all disks found"

After doing this I could see my data! Yeah!

I am still going to replace the mobo because theres something dodgy going on with the usb ports...(even though i dont use the usb ports any more).
I have had this Gigabyte motherboard since 2013 but apparently they still do the same model (Revision 6) and it should be compatible with my memory and CPU, so I've ordered a new one @ £50.

Thanks to raul for help and advice
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3
CPU: AMD FX-6100 Six-Core Processor
Storage: 6 x 2TB Western Digital 3.5 hard drives
RAM: 32GB DDR3
Boot device: KINGSTON 120GB SSD (connected via PCI Card)
Redundancy: raidz2
Installation type: RootOnZfs

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Re: Recover from boot failure

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Post by was-armandh » 12 Jan 2019 14:14

save the mobo
it may be that only the USB ports have been fritzed by the bad USB stick
most usb ports have a fusible path for the 5V.
using a powered usb splitter with a NEW memory stick in a non working port will tell
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Re: Recover from boot failure

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Post by Storms » 14 Jan 2019 00:24

was-armandh wrote:
12 Jan 2019 14:14
save the mobo
it may be that only the USB ports have been fritzed by the bad USB stick
most usb ports have a fusible path for the 5V.
using a powered usb splitter with a NEW memory stick in a non working port will tell
Yes, will keep old mobo as a backup
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3
CPU: AMD FX-6100 Six-Core Processor
Storage: 6 x 2TB Western Digital 3.5 hard drives
RAM: 32GB DDR3
Boot device: KINGSTON 120GB SSD (connected via PCI Card)
Redundancy: raidz2
Installation type: RootOnZfs

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