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Re: New setup, help me decide.

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crowi wrote:Hmm, let's say the the Xeon will eat the Avoton for breakfast. :lol:
I thought so. :lol: But perhaps I was loosing anything. For me, that want to double the NAS as a server an Atom is not enough.

Finally, the spare Intel processors I have around where all socket 775, so I looked for a LGA1150. UAH! What a prices they have. mb=200€+cpu>200€... That was the reason to reconsider the avoton at 400€.
I think I've to study what possible cpu candidates are there. (Always an AMD guy :oops: )

I can't get the error text. Chrome other devices history is not working.
It looked something like two lines starting with Gxx: and the second one ended with "may be not recoverable."
I think it wont be important.

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¿¿ :? ?? What cpus you recommend for my two mb options? (E3C226D2I and MBD-X10SLL-F)
A provisory cheaper one and a xeon?

I was looking at: http://ark.intel.com/products/75052/
But it seems that will not support the max ram on the boards and does not have a gpu. Both mb have integrated graphics card. It's needed the cpu having gpu?
Also I can't find data or comparison about consumption.

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Re: New setup, help me decide.

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For me, that want to double the NAS as a server an Atom is not enough.
What finally convinced me to go the C2550D4I way, was the passive cooling (I just have 2 x 12 cm case fans) and the 12 x onboard SATA (8 x SATA3 / 4 SATA 2).
It depends on what you want to do with your server, I can hardly get 100% CPU useage, on load I reachd around 50-60% max with the Avoton, but I don't use encryption or other tasks which stress the CPU.

I think I've to study what possible cpu candidates are there. (Always an AMD guy)
Me too, since the AMD K5 came to market I built all of my PCs on AMD CPUs and I just switched from a E350 to the Avoton on my NAS :)
I was overwhelmed from the wide product range Intel currently offers (Atom, Avoton, i3, i5, i7, xeon, celeron, pentium) in all variants.
I did some research and came to the LGA 1150/1155 socket and either a i3, i7 or Xeon, would be the best current choice for a server, depending on the budget, of course.
NAS 1: Milchkuh: Asrock C2550D4I, Intel Avoton C2550 Quad-Core, 16GB DDR3 ECC, 5x3TB WD Red RaidZ1 +60 GB SSD for ZIL/L2ARC, APC-Back UPS 350 CS, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
NAS 2: Backup: HP N54L, 8 GB ECC RAM, 4x4 TB WD Red, RaidZ1, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
NAS 3: Office: HP N54L, 8 GB ECC RAM, 2x3 TB WD Red, ZFS Mirror, APC-Back UPS 350 CS NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded

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Re: New setup, help me decide.

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It supports 32 GB,like the mainboards do:
Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type) 32 GB

Here's the full overview:
http://ark.intel.com/products/series/75143#@All

and here the slightly cheaper i3s for these boards:
http://ark.intel.com/products/family/75 ... ssors#@All
NAS 1: Milchkuh: Asrock C2550D4I, Intel Avoton C2550 Quad-Core, 16GB DDR3 ECC, 5x3TB WD Red RaidZ1 +60 GB SSD for ZIL/L2ARC, APC-Back UPS 350 CS, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
NAS 2: Backup: HP N54L, 8 GB ECC RAM, 4x4 TB WD Red, RaidZ1, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
NAS 3: Office: HP N54L, 8 GB ECC RAM, 2x3 TB WD Red, ZFS Mirror, APC-Back UPS 350 CS NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded

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i5 and i7 do not work on the server boards.

for cpu

a cheap celeron/pentium is fine for just file serving
i3 if you need encrption.
xeon if you want to do cpu intensive stuff like transcoding / running jails or virtualbox
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i5 and i7 do not work on the server boards.
The specs of E3C226D2I say:

Single socket H3 (LGA 1150)
Supports New 4th and 4th Generation Intel XeonE3-1200 v3/ Core™ i7/i5/i3/Pentium/Celeron Processors (Socket 1150)
http://www.asrockrack.com/general/produ ... =E3C226D2I#
NAS 1: Milchkuh: Asrock C2550D4I, Intel Avoton C2550 Quad-Core, 16GB DDR3 ECC, 5x3TB WD Red RaidZ1 +60 GB SSD for ZIL/L2ARC, APC-Back UPS 350 CS, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
NAS 2: Backup: HP N54L, 8 GB ECC RAM, 4x4 TB WD Red, RaidZ1, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
NAS 3: Office: HP N54L, 8 GB ECC RAM, 2x3 TB WD Red, ZFS Mirror, APC-Back UPS 350 CS NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded

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Re: New setup, help me decide.

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ok they work on the asrock board but not on the supermicro board.

officially intel does not want people to run these cpus on the server chipsets because they want them to run the xeon cpus.
Nas4Free 11.1.0.4.4517. Supermicro X10SLL-F, 16gb ECC, i3 4130, IBM M1015 with IT firmware. 4x 3tb WD Red, 4x 2TB Samsung F4, both GEOM AES 256 encrypted.

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from the asrock manual

E3C226D2I:
Intel®
Xeon®
processor E3-1200 v3
product family & Haswell i3
* Haswell i5/i7 processor support is
an extended advantage pro vided by
ASRock Rack. It is out of warranty,
user's discretion is required.
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It seems that doesn't support non-ECC ram. I was convinced that I saw they were ECC/non-ECC compatible.
Geez, that spares I have here aren't useful. I must buy all in a row.

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Re: New setup, help me decide.

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Haswell i5/i7 processor support is
an extended advantage pro vided by
ASRock Rack. It is out of warranty,
user's discretion is required
WTF ?? :lol:
Don't tell Intel about this 'feature'!
NAS 1: Milchkuh: Asrock C2550D4I, Intel Avoton C2550 Quad-Core, 16GB DDR3 ECC, 5x3TB WD Red RaidZ1 +60 GB SSD for ZIL/L2ARC, APC-Back UPS 350 CS, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
NAS 2: Backup: HP N54L, 8 GB ECC RAM, 4x4 TB WD Red, RaidZ1, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
NAS 3: Office: HP N54L, 8 GB ECC RAM, 2x3 TB WD Red, ZFS Mirror, APC-Back UPS 350 CS NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded

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Re: New setup, help me decide.

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risky business

expeditions into uncharted territory of CPU/MOBO/RAM combinations seems unwise
when it comes to storing data: well known, unmodified, correctly clocked hardware gets my vote.
all else has unknown risk and the possibility of unintended consequences.

you have to ask your self "do I feel Lucky" [now] to avoid "what was I thinking" [later]
4 thread 3300 Mhz Intel i3, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 7.823 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free 9.1.0.1 rev 573 [88 watts, 48 Mbps]
2 thread 1600 Mhz atom/ion, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 3.083 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free-9.1.0.1 rev 573 [27 watts, 35 Mbps]
2 thread 3900 Mhz AMD A6-6400K, 2 TB ZFS Mirror, available RAM 7.557 Gb, 64 bit Nas4Free 9.3.0.2.1771 [89 watts, 68 Mbps]

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