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[PROBLEM SOVED] Install to CF/IDE adapter is not found for reboot

Posted: 20 Dec 2014 02:46
by nas4fpksky
I have a Transcend 2GB compact flash TS2GCF133 that I have attached to a CF to IDE adapter. It shares the cable select IDE cable with a CDROM drive. I first thought my problems were from the position on the cable, but here's what happened:

I first tried to install using the x64 Live CD 9.3.0.2.1190 iso image from a burned CDROM, but it wouldn't install. I then tried the x86-9.2.0.1.972 burned iso image and it installed without any problems and invited a reboot. But the reboot can't find the CF drive, I get a "disk not found" error.

LIke I said, I thought at first it was cable position problem, there is confusing jumper switch on the adapter that says 1-3 MASTER/SLAVE, 2-3 SLAVE/MASTER. I currently have it set at 1-2 SLAVE/MASTER with the adapter on the end master cable position and the CDROM drive on the second slave cable position with the CDROM jumper on the middle slave jumper.

I don't see any documentation on using a CF/IDE adapter and assumed it's just like installing to a drive. There is also a power connector for a floppy drive that is hooked up. I think everything is order.

What could be going wrong?

Re: Install to CF/IDE adapter is not found for reboot

Posted: 20 Dec 2014 08:58
by raulfg3
you must configure CF2IDE as master and CD-rom as slave to work properly.

Re: Install to CF/IDE adapter is not found for reboot

Posted: 20 Dec 2014 18:01
by nas4fpksky
raulfg3 wrote:you must configure CF2IDE as master and CD-rom as slave to work properly.
Aren't I doing that already? Why isn't my current configuration exactly that setup?
... 1-3 MASTER/SLAVE, 2-3 SLAVE/MASTER. I currently have it set at 1-2 SLAVE/MASTER with the adapter on the end master cable position and the CDROM drive on the second slave cable position with the CDROM jumper on the middle slave jumper.
According to the BIOS, the CF drive is master and the CDROM is slave. Why isn't this working?

(Update: I have installed an embedded system into a USB drive on this same hardware successfully.)

Re: Install to CF/IDE adapter is not found for reboot

Posted: 21 Dec 2014 02:35
by armandh
be sure to use the primary IDE line
I have found some MOBO do not boot from the secondary IDE line
try reloading from the live CD
try it without the CD connected
check bios boot options
try with a different cable

otherwise there are some hardware combinations that don't work
I have found small [win 98 era ] Hdd work well and can be set to spin down.

Success! CF->Master HDD-> Slave

Posted: 22 Dec 2014 20:15
by nas4fpksky
This configuration did it. I hooked up an IDE HDD as Slave and the CF adapter with card as master. The jumper was set 1-2 MASTER/SLAVE for the CF adapter and the HDD jumper was set as slave. Not only that, but I was able to successfully install the x64-LiveCD-9.3.0.2.1190.iso.

There is only one IDE line on this system and the CDROM install was by way of a USB drive. The boot options were to boot from a HDD. The BIOS shows the CF adapter and CF card as a hard drive.

If I want to post my system using the formalism I see at this forum in the signature area, how do I do it?

Re: [PROBLEM SOVED] Install to CF/IDE adapter is not found for reboot

Posted: 22 Dec 2014 20:43
by armandh
ugly this has changed a bit
upper right corner click on your user name select user control panel
next to overview click on the 3 dash lines click edit signature

Re: [PROBLEM SOVED] Install to CF/IDE adapter is not found for reboot

Posted: 22 Dec 2014 20:54
by alexey123
If you use CF over IDE adapter, you need reduce speed, because CF not have ram-buffer.

See topic viewtopic.php?t=4809

Re: [PROBLEM SOVED] Install to CF/IDE adapter is not found for reboot

Posted: 22 Dec 2014 23:39
by nas4fpksky
armandh wrote:ugly this has changed a bit
upper right corner click on your user name select user control panel
next to overview click on the 3 dash lines click edit signature
I don't see 3 dash lines, but I found where you edit your signature. Where do you collect the information to conform with the way everybody else posts it?

Re: [PROBLEM SOVED] Install to CF/IDE adapter is not found for reboot

Posted: 22 Dec 2014 23:40
by nas4fpksky
alexey123 wrote:If you use CF over IDE adapter, you need reduce speed, because CF not have ram-buffer.

See topic viewtopic.php?t=4809
I'm not sure I see what the problem is there, but I'll keep it mind if I stare experiencing problems. Can you summarize what problems I can expect if I don't reduce speed on the CF?

Re: [PROBLEM SOVED] Install to CF/IDE adapter is not found for reboot

Posted: 23 Dec 2014 05:18
by armandh
there is no standard format for the signature
just type in what you wish to end each post

Re: [PROBLEM SOVED] Install to CF/IDE adapter is not found for reboot

Posted: 23 Dec 2014 06:20
by alexey123
nas4fpksky wrote: Can you summarize what problems I can expect if I don't reduce speed on the CF?
All CF have different speed for read and write. My flash write speed was ~4.4 MB/s and read speed was ~135 MB/s. NAS4Free define speed for CF as 100 MB/s , but this way is wrong, you can lost some data during write cicle.
As indikator, you will receive into log such messages

Code: Select all

(ada0:ata0:0:0:0): READ_DMA. ACB: c8 00 5f ba 01 40 00 00 00 00 20 00
(ada0:ata0:0:0:0): CAM status: Command timeout
(ada0:ata0:0:0:0): Retrying command
When I reduce speed, all was clean during ~1 year

Re: [PROBLEM SOVED] Install to CF/IDE adapter is not found for reboot

Posted: 26 Dec 2014 23:26
by nas4fpksky
I have given up on the IDE/CF adapter boot and have gone back to a USB flash drive. I had some additional problems here:

viewtopic.php?f=57&t=7953