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SS4200e boots fine from LiveUSB, not after install to disk
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Antwon
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SS4200e boots fine from LiveUSB, not after install to disk
I've got an Intel SS4200e with an IDE DOM that I've temporarily connected a video card to.
I've burned the latest (9.3.0.2.1310) LiveUSB image to a USB drive using ImageWriter and then booted up the SS4200e, and that works fine, I get to the console and everything is good. When I select option 9 to install to disk (and then select the IDE DOM with option 1), everything appears to run as it should until I do a reboot. It runs through its bootup process and when it should reach the console menu, it displays: *Console Menu Disabled*. I try connecting to it on 192.168.1.250 and get nothing.
Now here is another curious aspect: hitting the print screen key to bring up the login, allows me to log in as root, but only with a blank password. It won't take the nas4free password.
So I've tried a couple of different USB drives and tried the previous version, all to no avail. How do I go about troubleshooting this?
Keep in mind that I'm a Windows admin and this is part of me branching out, so I while I may not know a whole lot about Linux, I am at least a technical individual.
I've burned the latest (9.3.0.2.1310) LiveUSB image to a USB drive using ImageWriter and then booted up the SS4200e, and that works fine, I get to the console and everything is good. When I select option 9 to install to disk (and then select the IDE DOM with option 1), everything appears to run as it should until I do a reboot. It runs through its bootup process and when it should reach the console menu, it displays: *Console Menu Disabled*. I try connecting to it on 192.168.1.250 and get nothing.
Now here is another curious aspect: hitting the print screen key to bring up the login, allows me to log in as root, but only with a blank password. It won't take the nas4free password.
So I've tried a couple of different USB drives and tried the previous version, all to no avail. How do I go about troubleshooting this?
Keep in mind that I'm a Windows admin and this is part of me branching out, so I while I may not know a whole lot about Linux, I am at least a technical individual.
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Re: SS4200e boots fine from LiveUSB, not after install to disk
thank you for reporting.
Did you remove LiveUSB before rebooting?
Did you access GUI with LiveUSB?
If you can reach GUI, run from "Advanced|Execute command".
If not possible, please upload screen capture image of below result or write text here.
Please run this command before rebooting from GUI or console menu #6.
gpart show
glabel status
df -h
diskinfo -v ada0
Note: please replace ada0 with your install destination disk.
Did you remove LiveUSB before rebooting?
Did you access GUI with LiveUSB?
If you can reach GUI, run from "Advanced|Execute command".
If not possible, please upload screen capture image of below result or write text here.
Please run this command before rebooting from GUI or console menu #6.
gpart show
glabel status
df -h
diskinfo -v ada0
Note: please replace ada0 with your install destination disk.
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ASRock E350M1/USB3, 16GB, Realtek 8111E (on-board), ZFS mirror (2TBx2)
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armandh
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Re: SS4200e boots fine from LiveUSB, not after install to disk
I will assume the embedded OS
once you believe the OS is transferred, yes you remove the live OS
be sure the IDE flash is in the primary IDE socket
I have had boards that do NOT boot from the secondary IDE socket
at the beginning the boot process is all real mode
there is a certain reliance on hardware compatibility
I have had good luck with these 512 Mb flash drives
http://www.logicsupply.com/components/s ... h-modules/
once you believe the OS is transferred, yes you remove the live OS
be sure the IDE flash is in the primary IDE socket
I have had boards that do NOT boot from the secondary IDE socket
at the beginning the boot process is all real mode
there is a certain reliance on hardware compatibility
I have had good luck with these 512 Mb flash drives
http://www.logicsupply.com/components/s ... h-modules/
4 thread 3300 Mhz Intel i3, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 7.823 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free 9.1.0.1 rev 573 [88 watts, 48 Mbps]
2 thread 1600 Mhz atom/ion, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 3.083 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free-9.1.0.1 rev 573 [27 watts, 35 Mbps]
2 thread 3900 Mhz AMD A6-6400K, 2 TB ZFS Mirror, available RAM 7.557 Gb, 64 bit Nas4Free 9.3.0.2.1771 [89 watts, 68 Mbps]
2 thread 1600 Mhz atom/ion, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 3.083 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free-9.1.0.1 rev 573 [27 watts, 35 Mbps]
2 thread 3900 Mhz AMD A6-6400K, 2 TB ZFS Mirror, available RAM 7.557 Gb, 64 bit Nas4Free 9.3.0.2.1771 [89 watts, 68 Mbps]
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Re: SS4200e boots fine from LiveUSB, not after install to disk
Thanks for the replies! Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to continue troubleshooting this morning before work, but I can still answer a couple of those questions:
@daoyama
Did you remove LiveUSB before rebooting?
--Yes, I shutdown the NAS, removed the LiveUSB, and then powered the NAS back on.
Did you access GUI with LiveUSB?
--I did not think to try this, I'll give it a go tonight.
I will also get you the results of those commands tonight.
@armandh
I will assume the embedded OS
--Yes, embedded OS. Sorry for not clarifying.
once you believe the OS is transferred, yes you remove the live OS
--Yes, see above.
be sure the IDE flash is in the primary IDE socket
--Yes, there is only one IDE socket, so I can assume that it is the primary. Though I can verify in the BIOS tonight.
at the beginning the boot process is all real mode
--I'm not sure I understand what you are asking here. It does give me the options of the different modes during startup, I've been using option 1: Normal mode.
I'll get back with more info tonight when I get home. Thanks guys!
@daoyama
Did you remove LiveUSB before rebooting?
--Yes, I shutdown the NAS, removed the LiveUSB, and then powered the NAS back on.
Did you access GUI with LiveUSB?
--I did not think to try this, I'll give it a go tonight.
I will also get you the results of those commands tonight.
@armandh
I will assume the embedded OS
--Yes, embedded OS. Sorry for not clarifying.
once you believe the OS is transferred, yes you remove the live OS
--Yes, see above.
be sure the IDE flash is in the primary IDE socket
--Yes, there is only one IDE socket, so I can assume that it is the primary. Though I can verify in the BIOS tonight.
at the beginning the boot process is all real mode
--I'm not sure I understand what you are asking here. It does give me the options of the different modes during startup, I've been using option 1: Normal mode.
I'll get back with more info tonight when I get home. Thanks guys!
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armandh
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Re: SS4200e boots fine from LiveUSB, not after install to disk
the beginning of the boot process is real mode [possibly called normal?]
the CPU finding the boot files and acting accordingly.
later in the boot process, things switch to protected mode
real modes rely upon hardware compatibility as there is not yet any OS to fix such issues.
protected mode has the OS to sort things out.
for example
USB sticks that contain a self loading driver will not work for the boot process as there is not yet an OS to load the driver.
these need to be reformatted into an ordinary FAT file to work as a boot medium.
the CPU finding the boot files and acting accordingly.
later in the boot process, things switch to protected mode
real modes rely upon hardware compatibility as there is not yet any OS to fix such issues.
protected mode has the OS to sort things out.
for example
USB sticks that contain a self loading driver will not work for the boot process as there is not yet an OS to load the driver.
these need to be reformatted into an ordinary FAT file to work as a boot medium.
4 thread 3300 Mhz Intel i3, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 7.823 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free 9.1.0.1 rev 573 [88 watts, 48 Mbps]
2 thread 1600 Mhz atom/ion, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 3.083 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free-9.1.0.1 rev 573 [27 watts, 35 Mbps]
2 thread 3900 Mhz AMD A6-6400K, 2 TB ZFS Mirror, available RAM 7.557 Gb, 64 bit Nas4Free 9.3.0.2.1771 [89 watts, 68 Mbps]
2 thread 1600 Mhz atom/ion, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 3.083 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free-9.1.0.1 rev 573 [27 watts, 35 Mbps]
2 thread 3900 Mhz AMD A6-6400K, 2 TB ZFS Mirror, available RAM 7.557 Gb, 64 bit Nas4Free 9.3.0.2.1771 [89 watts, 68 Mbps]
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Re: SS4200e boots fine from LiveUSB, not after install to disk
@armandh
Thanks for the clarification. It is possible that the DOM just isn't compatible. This is the one I bought: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Industrial-Disk ... 2a3b32e3a7
@daoyama
Looks like the web interface works just fine when booting from USB. I was able to run the commands after booting from the LiveUSB, here are the results:
Thank you for helping me, I do appreciate it!
Thanks for the clarification. It is possible that the DOM just isn't compatible. This is the one I bought: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Industrial-Disk ... 2a3b32e3a7
@daoyama
Looks like the web interface works just fine when booting from USB. I was able to run the commands after booting from the LiveUSB, here are the results:
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$ gpart show
=> 63 62377921 ada0 MBR (29G)
63 1654632 1 freebsd [active] (807M)
1654695 8401995 2 freebsd (4.0G)
10056690 52307640 3 freebsd (25G)
62364330 13654 - free - (6.7M)
=> 63 15658945 da0 MBR (7.5G)
63 853965 1 freebsd [active] (417M)
854028 1052667 2 freebsd (514M)
1906695 28665 3 freebsd (14M)
1935360 13723648 - free - (6.6G)
=> 0 1654632 ada0s1 BSD (807M)
0 1985 - free - (992k)
1985 1638400 1 freebsd-ufs (800M)
1640385 14247 - free - (7M)
=> 0 8401995 ada0s2 BSD (4.0G)
0 89 - free - (44k)
89 8388608 2 freebsd-swap (4.0G)
8388697 13298 - free - (6.5M)
=> 0 52307640 ada0s3 BSD (25G)
0 1038 - free - (519k)
1038 52305920 1 freebsd-ufs (25G)
52306958 682 - free - (341k)
=> 0 853965 da0s1 BSD (417M)
0 1985 - free - (992k)
1985 851968 1 freebsd-ufs (416M)
853953 12 - free - (6.0k)
=> 0 1052667 da0s2 BSD (514M)
0 2036 - free - (1M)
2036 1048576 2 freebsd-swap (512M)
1050612 2055 - free - (1.0M)
=> 0 28665 da0s3 BSD (14M)
0 2041 - free - (1M)
2041 24576 1 freebsd-ufs (12M)
26617 2048 - free - (1.0M)
------------
$ glabel status
Name Status Components
ufsid/54baf92cc4bbdd4a N/A ada0s1a
ufs/embboot N/A ada0s1a
ufsid/54bd5e3cd455f80a N/A ada0s3a
ufs/data N/A ada0s3a
ufsid/54baf9c6b159d095 N/A da0s1a
ufs/liveboot N/A da0s1a
------------
$ df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/xmd0 119M 33M 86M 28% /
devfs 1.0k 1.0k 0B 100% /dev
/dev/xmd1 719M 246M 472M 34% /usr/local
procfs 4.0k 4.0k 0B 100% /proc
/dev/xmd2 123M 684k 113M 1% /var
tmpfs 64M 32k 64M 0% /var/tmp
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$ diskinfo -v ada0
ada0
512 # sectorsize
31937527808 # mediasize in bytes (29G)
62377984 # mediasize in sectors
0 # stripesize
0 # stripeoffset
66008 # Cylinders according to firmware.
15 # Heads according to firmware.
63 # Sectors according to firmware.
984081900122 # Disk ident.-
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Re: SS4200e boots fine from LiveUSB, not after install to disk
I have had brands other than my favorite [above linked] go bad
give it the sniff test for burnt phenolic
give it the sniff test for burnt phenolic
4 thread 3300 Mhz Intel i3, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 7.823 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free 9.1.0.1 rev 573 [88 watts, 48 Mbps]
2 thread 1600 Mhz atom/ion, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 3.083 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free-9.1.0.1 rev 573 [27 watts, 35 Mbps]
2 thread 3900 Mhz AMD A6-6400K, 2 TB ZFS Mirror, available RAM 7.557 Gb, 64 bit Nas4Free 9.3.0.2.1771 [89 watts, 68 Mbps]
2 thread 1600 Mhz atom/ion, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 3.083 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free-9.1.0.1 rev 573 [27 watts, 35 Mbps]
2 thread 3900 Mhz AMD A6-6400K, 2 TB ZFS Mirror, available RAM 7.557 Gb, 64 bit Nas4Free 9.3.0.2.1771 [89 watts, 68 Mbps]
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Re: SS4200e boots fine from LiveUSB, not after install to disk
Thank you.Antwon wrote:Looks like the web interface works just fine when booting from USB. I was able to run the commands after booting from the LiveUSB, here are the results:
Your installation layout seems good no problem.
What size of memory do you use?
It may fail on out of memory when extracting compressed archive.
After console menu disabled, you should see backlog by pressing "Scroll Lock" key and
PageUP/Down, cursor keys.
Do you see somthing error? (around "Creating 2nd memory disk")
This is VM's result but you can see like this: Also you may login from 2nd console by pressing "PrintScreen/SysRq" key.
login as root and password is empty.
If success, please check your conditions by same command(gpart etc).
Additionally, please run "top -b" and post the lines starting from "Mem:" and "Swap:".
Thanks,
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NAS4Free 10.2.0.2.2115 (x64-embedded), 10.2.0.2.2258 (arm), 10.2.0.2.2258(dom0)
GIGABYTE 5YASV-RH, Celeron E3400 (Dual 2.6GHz), ECC 8GB, Intel ET/CT/82566DM (on-board), ZFS mirror (2TBx2)
ASRock E350M1/USB3, 16GB, Realtek 8111E (on-board), ZFS mirror (2TBx2)
MSI MS-9666, Core i7-860(Quad 2.8GHz/HT), 32GB, Mellanox ConnectX-2 EN/Intel 82578DM (on-board), ZFS mirror (3TBx2+L2ARC/ZIL:SSD128GB)
Develop/test environment:
VirtualBox 512MB VM, ESXi 512MB-8GB VM, Raspberry Pi, Pi2, ODROID-C1
GIGABYTE 5YASV-RH, Celeron E3400 (Dual 2.6GHz), ECC 8GB, Intel ET/CT/82566DM (on-board), ZFS mirror (2TBx2)
ASRock E350M1/USB3, 16GB, Realtek 8111E (on-board), ZFS mirror (2TBx2)
MSI MS-9666, Core i7-860(Quad 2.8GHz/HT), 32GB, Mellanox ConnectX-2 EN/Intel 82578DM (on-board), ZFS mirror (3TBx2+L2ARC/ZIL:SSD128GB)
Develop/test environment:
VirtualBox 512MB VM, ESXi 512MB-8GB VM, Raspberry Pi, Pi2, ODROID-C1
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Re: SS4200e boots fine from LiveUSB, not after install to disk
Hi,
Could you please make sure that your
Without it FreeBSD will not find your DOM.
Cheers,
Could you please make sure that your
contains:/cf/boot/device.hints
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# SS4200 - Find PATA
hint.ata.0.at="isa"
hint.ata.0.port="0x1F0"
hint.ata.0.irq="14"
Cheers,
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Re: SS4200e boots fine from LiveUSB, not after install to disk
I've only got 512MB of RAM and it looks like it errors out after 'Creating 2nd Memory Disk'. I see the following:
And then it goes on a long list of different files that aren't found.
So more memory would fix this? Why would it boot just fine using the LiveUSB but not with the DOM?
@Juniorc
I'll check that tonight when I get home.
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Booting with low memory
Creating 2nd memory disk for x64-embedded
swapon: /dev/: Block device required
mount: /dev: Block device required
/mnt/mdlocal.xz (1/1)
/usr/bin/xz: /mnt/mdlocal.xz: No such file or directory
umount: /mnt: not a file systemroot directory
mount: /dev/xmd1: Invalid argument
ldconfig: warning: /usr/local/lib: No such file or directory
Loading configuration files.So more memory would fix this? Why would it boot just fine using the LiveUSB but not with the DOM?
@Juniorc
I'll check that tonight when I get home.