excellent article in FreeNAS Forums:
http://forums.freenas.org/index.php?thr ... zfs.15449/
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ECC vs non-ECC RAM and ZFS
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ECC vs non-ECC RAM and ZFS
12.1.0.4 - Ingva (revision 7743) on SUPERMICRO X8SIL-F 8GB of ECC RAM, 11x3TB disk in 1 vdev = Vpool = 32TB Raw size , so 29TB usable size (I Have other NAS as Backup)
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Re: ECC vs non-ECC RAM and ZFS
Excellent and scary :-/
Now a list of affordable mainboards which support ECC would be great...
Now a list of affordable mainboards which support ECC would be great...
NAS 1: Milchkuh: Asrock C2550D4I, Intel Avoton C2550 Quad-Core, 16GB DDR3 ECC, 5x3TB WD Red RaidZ1 +60 GB SSD for ZIL/L2ARC, APC-Back UPS 350 CS, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
NAS 2: Backup: HP N54L, 8 GB ECC RAM, 4x4 TB WD Red, RaidZ1, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
NAS 3: Office: HP N54L, 8 GB ECC RAM, 2x3 TB WD Red, ZFS Mirror, APC-Back UPS 350 CS NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
NAS 2: Backup: HP N54L, 8 GB ECC RAM, 4x4 TB WD Red, RaidZ1, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
NAS 3: Office: HP N54L, 8 GB ECC RAM, 2x3 TB WD Red, ZFS Mirror, APC-Back UPS 350 CS NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
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Re: ECC vs non-ECC RAM and ZFS
well the new amd kabini were supposed to support ecc and aes-ni.
but amd has announced them so far back and now is only releasing them in the am1 socket that i have no idea what the current state is.
here is an image where the ecc is mentioned.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/displa ... tions.html
but amd has announced them so far back and now is only releasing them in the am1 socket that i have no idea what the current state is.
here is an image where the ecc is mentioned.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/displa ... tions.html
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Re: ECC vs non-ECC RAM and ZFS
The HP Proliant G7 Microservers use ECC RAM and have a £100 cashback deal here in UK (and the rest of Europe too?)crowi wrote:Excellent and scary :-/
Now a list of affordable mainboards which support ECC would be great...
http://www.ebuyer.com/430446-hp-prolian ... 704941-421
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other link to N54L in euros: http://www.pccomponentes.com/hp_prolian ... 250gb.html
12.1.0.4 - Ingva (revision 7743) on SUPERMICRO X8SIL-F 8GB of ECC RAM, 11x3TB disk in 1 vdev = Vpool = 32TB Raw size , so 29TB usable size (I Have other NAS as Backup)
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Re: ECC vs non-ECC RAM and ZFS
I have an hp proliant ml115 with 8GB ECC ram so i think i will stick with less ram then loosing data.
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Re: ECC vs non-ECC RAM and ZFS
Here in the US I see a few good deals on ebay although they might be overkill and use too much electricity.
2900 PowerEdge
http://m.ebay.com/itm/181353880603?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE
Xeon Dual @ 2.8Ghz
http://m.ebay.com/itm/121294860871?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE
2900 PowerEdge
http://m.ebay.com/itm/181353880603?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE
Xeon Dual @ 2.8Ghz
http://m.ebay.com/itm/121294860871?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE
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Re: ECC vs non-ECC RAM and ZFS
Can I just pull out my old ram that is not ECC and replace it with ram that is and be good to go so long as my other hardware is compatible?
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Yes, assuming your motherboard supports ECC memory. Most do not.Mathew wrote:Can I just pull out my old ram that is not ECC and replace it with ram that is and be good to go so long as my other hardware is compatible?
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Re: ECC vs non-ECC RAM and ZFS
The whole ECC safety thing was bugging me so I bit the bullet and bought a SuperMicro with ECC Support http://www.ebay.com/itm/Barebone-Superm ... 3785wt_810
My 11 year old son has his eyes on my old NAS Server for minecraft. Maybe I will setup a Minecraft server for him and his friends.
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11.2-RELEASE-p3 | ZFS Mirror - 2 x 8TB WD Red | 28GB ECC Ram
HP ML10v2 x64-embedded on Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4150 CPU @ 3.50GHz
Extra memory so I can host a couple VMs
1) Unifi Controller on Ubuntu
2) Librenms on Ubuntu
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Extra memory so I can host a couple VMs
1) Unifi Controller on Ubuntu
2) Librenms on Ubuntu
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Re: ECC vs non-ECC RAM and ZFS
nice find.
might draw a bit more power than current systems but you cant argue with the price
might draw a bit more power than current systems but you cant argue with the price
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Re: ECC vs non-ECC RAM and ZFS
Hello,
I currently have a ZFS (single-parity) RAIDZ (raidz1) running with non-ECC memory. Is it okay if I simply remove my existing memory and replace with unbuffered ECC memory (my board does not support buffered/registered ECC DIMMs)?
Thx
I currently have a ZFS (single-parity) RAIDZ (raidz1) running with non-ECC memory. Is it okay if I simply remove my existing memory and replace with unbuffered ECC memory (my board does not support buffered/registered ECC DIMMs)?
Thx
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Re: ECC vs non-ECC RAM and ZFS
Which Mainboard are you using ? If there is support from the Mainboard for ECC-Ram a simple RAM-Xchange works, but else you must change Mainboard...busthead wrote:Hello,
I currently have a ZFS (single-parity) RAIDZ (raidz1) running with non-ECC memory. Is it okay if I simply remove my existing memory and replace with unbuffered ECC memory (my board does not support buffered/registered ECC DIMMs)?
Thx
my NAS and its development until today: viewtopic.php?f=63&t=39&sid=039fed830cf ... 4d0abe4a04
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Re: ECC vs non-ECC RAM and ZFS
My mainboard is a abit AN52 nforce 520. Specs state that unbuffered EEC RAM is supported.apollo567 wrote:Which Mainboard are you using ? If there is support from the Mainboard for ECC-Ram a simple RAM-Xchange works, but else you must change Mainboard...busthead wrote:Hello,
I currently have a ZFS (single-parity) RAIDZ (raidz1) running with non-ECC memory. Is it okay if I simply remove my existing memory and replace with unbuffered ECC memory (my board does not support buffered/registered ECC DIMMs)?
Thx