upgrade from 9.0.0.1 to 9.1.x.x advice

tek_01 · Post by **tek_01** » 14 Sep 2012 09:59

Hi
I Would like to upgrade my N4F to a newer version that the WOL function works correctly

At the moment i am running 9.0.0.1. It is running off a USB stick (is this what they call embedded?)

What would my procedure be for doing this?
I Dont have a CD drive in my server so if i can do it through the webGUI or another usb stick easily that would be good
Also would i have to muck around with my pool again? or everything will stay exactly as it is (shares included) just the core of the OS will be upgraded?
Thanks in advance

kernow · Post by **kernow** » 14 Sep 2012 10:42

Just download the latest image via the firmware page and use the webgui to upgrade - worked fine for me.

russian · Post by **russian** » 14 Sep 2012 11:35

tek_01 wrote:Hi
What would my procedure be for doing this?

1:

"Embedded" and "Full install" it's two options of installation. Both of them could be installed to USB-stick and to HDD.

So, we don't have enough information to know if you use embedded or full version.

Try to find, what installation do you use.

May be this article will help you to get the difference between embedded and full.

2a:

If you don't have CD drive in your server, and you use USB-stick for system, you can use virtual machine, installed on other PC. I've tried it when I've upgraded from 9.0 to 9.1 on my USB-stick system.

Here you can find a topic about using VM for install or upgrade Nas4Free.

2b:

You can use also LiveUSB img, write it to other USB-stick, boot from it, and install nas4free to your system USB-stick. But there is one thing I'm not sure about: you definetly could install new nas4free from LiveUSB, but I'm not sure if you could UPGRADE your 9.0 to 9.1 from LiveUSB. It's better to ask alexey123 about it.

Post by **alexey123** » 14 Sep 2012 11:58

There are many troubles with upgrade full version from cd or usb.
Typically use the full version whenneed additional software on the server, not supplied by the team nas4free. Such simple php extensions require replace installed php core, and more...
For example, I just now killed nas4free 273 when I setup gettext. Therefore my versions I USB exclude upgrades.
To the upgrade, especially from stable to release candidate, I strongly advise you to backup the databases (not copy-paste, better way backup to sql files) and the entire list of installed programs.
List installed extensions can receive with command pkg_info
For save list installed program into file

Code: Select all

pkg_info >> list.txt

You can use sample script

Code: Select all

#!/usr/local/bin/php -f
<?php
exec ( "ls /var/db/pkg/ >> pkginfo.txt" );
$filename="pkginfo.txt"; 
$output1 = "restore.sh"; 
$file = fopen($filename, "r");
$fileoutput = fopen($output1, "w"); 
while(!feof($file)) { 
  $output = $output . "pkg_add -r " . fgets($file, 4096);
  $output2 = preg_replace("/-[0-9](.+)/", "", $output);
  file_put_contents($output1, $output2);
} 
fclose ($file);
fclose ($fileoutput);
?>

It made 2 files pkginfo.txt and restore.sh
In file restore.sh need add first line #!/bin/sh and delete wrong line pkg_add -r in the end of file

Buhu · Post by **Buhu** » 14 Sep 2012 20:36

kernow wrote:Just download the latest image via the firmware page and use the webgui to upgrade - worked fine for me.

I hav done this, but after reboot the systems stops during boot after usb..... also a new fresh installation does not run ! any idea ?

tek_01 · Post by **tek_01** » 16 Sep 2012 10:15

I Basically used physdiskwrite and done the same procedure as installing freeNAS 8 onto a USB
So what installation would that be?

Post by **alexey123** » 16 Sep 2012 11:36

tek_01 wrote:I Basically used physdiskwrite and done the same procedure as installing freeNAS 8 onto a USB

If you use embedded version from usb-pen you need download NAS4Free-<arch>-embedded-<version number>.* file. It compressed for use physdiskwrite utilite.

So what installation would that be?

If you want use any version, full or embedded from hard drive, better way download liveUSB, but you need use imagewriter or zip-compess image file for use physdiskwrite

mikewarer · Post by **mikewarer** » 18 Sep 2012 15:41

Well,
yesterday I have tried to upgrade from 9.0.0.1 to the latest 9.1.0.1.273 and what a suprise... all my datas on my raidz1 are gone!!! I have made a backup of my config with the GUi and write this back after the upgrade (fresh install from cd). Reboot and raidz1 is fresh, no datas!
Thank god I had made a backup of my datas but now I'm not sure if I want to use Nas4Free any longer. If this is the result of an "easy" update to a newer firmware, my datas are not save any longer with this software!
Is there a possibility to recover my raidz1 on the new x.273???

mike

Post by **raulfg3** » 18 Sep 2012 16:05

please post zpool status, and more info about your NAS. ( atach your old config.xml)

PD: is the first post I read about data lost on upgrade.

Post by **daoyama** » 18 Sep 2012 19:41

mikewarer wrote:Well,
yesterday I have tried to upgrade from 9.0.0.1 to the latest 9.1.0.1.273 and what a suprise... all my datas on my raidz1 are gone!!!

What do you mean "gone"?
you can't see list of pool?
you can't import the pool?
you can't mount the pool?
You can't see files on the pool?

If you deleted large files/dataset/snapshot/etc, you can't mount until all task of deleted files is completed after reboot.
It may take many hours depend on your deleted size and properties like compression and dedup.

9.0 and 9.1 is nothing change about ZFS I think.
You should switch anytime to old 9.0.

PS, ZFS delete is very slow! Take care.
Daisuke Aoyama

mikewarer · Post by **mikewarer** » 19 Sep 2012 14:39

Ok,
my message was a little too short

.
- With "gone" I mean, that after the upgrade the GUI said, that my raidz1 is empty .... there was about 1.4 TB datas before the upgrade afterwards all the space was free like a fresh format!
- of cause I can see the pool-list - I have had only one - no error message, disks are online, pool looks ok, but no data
- what should I import? The pool is online, but it's empty

- every disk, pool, virtual drive is mounted
- and no, no more files can be see, it's like fresh formated

I have attached the config-file, perhaps it will help. Meanwhile I have shut down the NAS, perhaps there is an way to bring back my datas

Mike

config-sol.local-20120902171327.zip

Post by **daoyama** » 19 Sep 2012 17:13

mikewarer wrote:
config-sol.local-20120902171327.zip

mikewarer · Post by **mikewarer** » 19 Sep 2012 19:52

Hallo Daisuke,

nice to see you again in the new forum. Your wish is my command

Disks|ZFS|Configuration|Detected

Disks_ZFS_Configuration_Detected.JPG

Disks|ZFS|Datasets|Information

Disks_ZFS_Datasets_Information.JPG

Disks|ZFS|Snapshots|Information

Disks_ZFS_Snapshots_Information.JPG

Disks|ZFS|Pools|Tools

Disks_ZFS_Pools_Tools.JPG

And you are right. The config is from the "old" 9.0.0.1. This is the file I have imported after I had upgrade to the new version. Here is now the attachement of the imported config from the new version ... I had not make any chances to it since the import. I also did not make any chances to the config in the new version. What you see is the result of the upgrade plus import of the "old" confi through the web-interface.

config-sol.local-20120919193304.zip

I hope you can see what's the problem was/is

Thanks
Daisuke San

Post by **daoyama** » 20 Sep 2012 05:08

You don't mention. But your pool history shows the pool was created at 2012-09-16. (4days ago)
Currently, create command is executed only from disks_zfs_zpool.php via zfs_zpool_configure().
The trigger is set by disks_zfs_zpool_edit.php.
It looks all parameters on the history are correct for me.
I don't know the time 18:46:37 is before or after upgrade.
But you can't re-create on existing same pool/device without '-f' option even if the pool is not imported.
If your pool was forced with '-f', the history shows it of course.
So, at the time 18:46:37, you have lost meta data on the disks. Or your version have a bug we don't know.
Now, I have no idea what to help this problem.

mikewarer wrote: And you are right. The config is from the "old" 9.0.0.1. This is the file I have imported after I had upgrade to the new version. Here is now the attachement of the imported config from the new version ... I had not make any chances to it since the import. I also did not make any chances to the config in the new version. What you see is the result of the upgrade plus import of the "old" confi through the web-interface.

Thank you for providing config.
It shows it does not have a big difference.
The config was updated at 2012-6-13 01:43:04, and new one is 2012-9-18 00:09:58.

BTW, which did you use embedded or full? What revision of 9.0.0.1?
Do you remember whether 2012-09-16 18:46:37 is before upgrade or after upgrade?

Thanks,
Daisuke Aoyama

mikewarer · Post by **mikewarer** » 20 Sep 2012 07:53

- Well, it was full install. I had booted with CD and have made the upgrade over the menu
- the revision was 9.0.0.1.43
- and I have tried to restore my old config several times, because I thought maybe there had been an error during write back
- 2012-09-16 18:46:37 was after the upgrade

Mike

georgedone · Post by **georgedone** » 23 Sep 2012 20:30

I have problems upgrading to 9.1.0.1.306.
My installation is a Full (Data+Swap) on a 2GB CompactFlash (connected via adapter to one of the P-ATA ports). The data is on one SATA drive (formated as ufs, no zfs here due to only 2GB RAM)
I always upgraded (since version 9.0.0.1.43) by booting from CDrom chosing option 9 (Install/Upgrade) and then option 5 (to upgrade full installation).
It worked well up to version 9.0.0.1.249 - which I'm running now, when I try to upgrade I press option 9, then 5 (upgrade full installation) I then get a confirmation window - where I select O.K. then I get the message 'No full installation detected"
How I can perform the upgrade ?

mvdstroom · Post by **mvdstroom** » 21 Oct 2012 10:57

I have a similar problem. After running 9.0.0.1 build 188 for a long time I decided to upgrade to 9.1.0.1 build 358. I noticed that I could not see any shares on my network anymore.

When I checked my ZFS config I noticed an error line:

"Er is verkeerde ID in de schijf van config . Verwijder de schijf en voeg deze opnieuw toe voor deze te gebruiken 'leegmaken en importeren'." -> Dutch

which means something like:

A drive has been found in the system that has an ID that is different than stored in config. Please empty and import.

Why had the ID changed? All drives are the same. But prior to upgrading (some time ago) I needed to replace a malfunctioning disk, but that went well and I have been using this new disk for months. Maybe its referring to the ID of the old drive?

The problem is, I don't know how to continue without losing data. Can I just empty the config and rebuild it? (The option in the ZFS Configuration tab) Do I need to replace the disk? (doing the procedure without actually replacing the drive itself)

[edit]

I solved the problem by clearing the config and importing the disks. But I have another problem. In my log I see the following line:

"root: /etc/rc.d/samba: WARNING: failed to start smbd"

But I don't see any reason for smbd failing to start... What can be causing this?

mvdstroom · Post by **mvdstroom** » 21 Oct 2012 15:34

Hmm, I didnt wat to wait too long for an answer, so I decided to do a clean (full) installation. Its working again now.

But the upgrade process has some flaws guys... Would be nice if those got sorted out!

Post by **daoyama** » 21 Oct 2012 15:49

mvdstroom wrote:Why had the ID changed? All drives are the same. But prior to upgrading (some time ago) I needed to replace a malfunctioning disk, but that went well and I have been using this new disk for months. Maybe its referring to the ID of the old drive?

This does not mean it has changed by upgrading. You have used disks with wrong ID in all previous versions.
The detection of wrong ID has been added in 9.1. So you cannot see any version of 9.0 and FreeNAS 0.7.x.

mvdstroom wrote:The problem is, I don't know how to continue without losing data. Can I just empty the config and rebuild it?

No need rebuilding, reformating, etc. Wrong ID/order means actual ID/order is not same as in your config.
You only need to modify wrong config. but it is hard to modify by hand. So, 9.1 is added "Clear config and Import" button. Now you need just click the button.

mvdstroom wrote:"root: /etc/rc.d/samba: WARNING: failed to start smbd"

I don't know a reason. But if you install some package, it may break starting order.

mvdstroom · Post by **mvdstroom** » 21 Oct 2012 17:21

daoyama wrote:No need rebuilding, reformating, etc. Wrong ID/order means actual ID/order is not same as in your config.
You only need to modify wrong config. but it is hard to modify by hand. So, 9.1 is added "Clear config and Import" button. Now you need just click the button.

That solved the first problem indeed

daoyama wrote:I don't know a reason. But if you install some package, it may break starting order.

Hmm, dunno. Its just a big pain to reinstall Sickbeard, Couchpotato and Sannzbd+ again and get them configured properly. Would be great if you could simplify the install procedure for that!

Post by **alexey123** » 21 Oct 2012 18:56

mvdstroom wrote:
daoyama wrote:I don't know a reason. But if you install some package, it may break starting order.
Hmm, dunno. Its just a big pain to reinstall Sickbeard, Couchpotato and Sannzbd+ again and get them configured properly. Would be great if you could simplify the install procedure for that!

I wrote about my troubles on this post
I was have 273 version, without import disks.
But in first line I wrote 1.I stop services..
Stop services --- All servises on webgui tab + smart.
Without this step - not worked. May be you have such problem. My nas work without any problem from Thu Sep 20 18:25:31 JST 2012 , rev 306, full, x86, RAM = 256+128+64

ShuraBB · Post by **ShuraBB** » 12 Nov 2012 14:11

>PD: is the first post I read about data lost on upgrade
I also encountered the problem of data loss when upgrading from version 9.0.0.1.249 on 9.1.0.1.x:
After the upgrade (or just download the ISO) version 9.1.0.1 does not see the old ZFS-pool. If you do not start thinking something changed - lost data.
If not having to change the configuration to return again to 9.0.0.1.249 - pool is available.

Post by **raulfg3** » 12 Nov 2012 14:30

try to do a fresh install and import your pool ( do not upgrade)

ShuraBB · Post by **ShuraBB** » 13 Nov 2012 10:10

>try to do a fresh install and import your pool ( do not upgrade)
Booting from a LiveCD and "import pool" does not change anything

Post by **daoyama** » 13 Nov 2012 10:23

ShuraBB wrote:>try to do a fresh install and import your pool ( do not upgrade)
Booting from a LiveCD and "import pool" does not change anything

Did you see this thread?
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1404&p=5807

animefans · Post by **animefans** » 18 Mar 2013 22:44

Sorry for dig this thread out...
My hardware is
HP ProLiant MicroServer N36L
8G RAM
4 2GB Samsung Spinpoint F4

And running NAS4Free 9.0.0.1 rev 83 embedded install, running 2 ZFS pools, in mirror

I know this is a very old install, and might not be properly configured (pretty slow IO from my perspective. I need to read up on how to properly meansure IO on this thing)

Is there any way of upgrading my embedded version of NAS4Free to any of the newer version without data loss?

From this thread, it seems like data loss should not happen, but it can happen...

If I have to do it manually (see some mention about import pool), what are the steps, or some sort of docs, I can read up on?

I just run NAS on this box, along with samba/nfs, so I can go clean install if I must, but I try to avoid it if possible

any recommended recent NAS4Free build I should use?

Thanks!

EDIT: change WD Green to Samsung Spinpoint. I have not touch this thing in ages...

XigmaNAS

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