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Newby with the same old questions.
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Newby with the same old questions.
Hi all, again sorry for posting what is probably an old question asked by yet another newbie. Im up and running i am looking at setting up access via the WAN. simply, i would like to access my nas from everywhere, LIGHT use only noting to special! Ive has the webserver and FTP running for a few minute and used them but i have some questions.
QUESTIONS
do i use FTP or webserver?
is owncloud overkill? does it just run from my NAS?
permissions, as its only me and possible my wife do i need to much changes with permissions and security? for Example one user "main" has full control over files/folders, one user "view" has read and write but not delete or modify? this over all folders/files. so simple 2 setups.
I am new to nas4free from XP background, but am ok following scripts, using putty etc.
thanks all.
QUESTIONS
do i use FTP or webserver?
is owncloud overkill? does it just run from my NAS?
permissions, as its only me and possible my wife do i need to much changes with permissions and security? for Example one user "main" has full control over files/folders, one user "view" has read and write but not delete or modify? this over all folders/files. so simple 2 setups.
I am new to nas4free from XP background, but am ok following scripts, using putty etc.
thanks all.
10.2.0.2 - Prester (revision 1814) embedded x64 no swap + extended webgui, on atom D2700MUD 1x4gb ram, 1x mini sata controllers, 4 HDD in a icydock 4bay caddy run 2x 500gb mirror and 2x1tb mirror. Using CIFS/SMB, SSH, DLNA/UPnP, dynamic DNS, Webserver (owncloud) and BitTorrent for home use.
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Re: Newby with the same old questions.
Using Putty? - so why not SSH/SFTP?
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Re: Newby with the same old questions.
for me yes, think that will not be quiet so easy for say my wife or kids. again light use with them. so a bit more GUI for them.
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Re: Newby with the same old questions.
WinScp is 'quite' simple.
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Re: Newby with the same old questions.
so your saying just use the FTP service on nas4free with winscp? is it simpler? do i still need to go through the process of making ftp securer ie sftp tweaking ive read?
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Re: Newby with the same old questions.
No, I did not say that. I said SFTP/SSH.
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Re: Newby with the same old questions.
ok sorry my mistake, reading too quickly after a beer to two. sorry. Ill have a look into it, id only really looked at FTP and webserver. is it safe etc to user over external internet?
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10.2.0.2 - Prester (revision 1814) embedded x64 no swap + extended webgui, on atom D2700MUD 1x4gb ram, 1x mini sata controllers, 4 HDD in a icydock 4bay caddy run 2x 500gb mirror and 2x1tb mirror. Using CIFS/SMB, SSH, DLNA/UPnP, dynamic DNS, Webserver (owncloud) and BitTorrent for home use.
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Re: Newby with the same old questions.
It's ok, red wine here 
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Re: Newby with the same old questions.
ill have to look into it, i only really looked at ftp and webserver for external user (over the WAN). is it safe (as any other protocol?) 
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Re: Newby with the same old questions.
SFTP is Secure FTP over SSH, so, quite secure.
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Re: Newby with the same old questions.
ok, so im trying to set this up. gone through this http://wiki.nas4free.org/doku.php?id=do ... figuration
so ive created a self-signed cert and key, pasted both in the system/general/webgui and changed HTTP to HTTPS. now access the webgui is only by https and i accept the certicate error "This Connection is Untrusted",
but I asume (obviously i guess) i need to enable SSH to get file transfer working, but i can only get it working if i tick "permit root logon" and "password authentication", i read somewhere else to not tick these as its not secure! but haven't i made it secure by adding the self-signed cert and key?
Ive not nothing else in the SSH service except the port "22" the rest was empty/blank.
also do i need to use winSCP with a private key file?
also is there a way round it where i dont need client software ie the winSCP? or is that looking at webserver's?
so ive created a self-signed cert and key, pasted both in the system/general/webgui and changed HTTP to HTTPS. now access the webgui is only by https and i accept the certicate error "This Connection is Untrusted",
but I asume (obviously i guess) i need to enable SSH to get file transfer working, but i can only get it working if i tick "permit root logon" and "password authentication", i read somewhere else to not tick these as its not secure! but haven't i made it secure by adding the self-signed cert and key?
Ive not nothing else in the SSH service except the port "22" the rest was empty/blank.
also do i need to use winSCP with a private key file?
also is there a way round it where i dont need client software ie the winSCP? or is that looking at webserver's?
10.2.0.2 - Prester (revision 1814) embedded x64 no swap + extended webgui, on atom D2700MUD 1x4gb ram, 1x mini sata controllers, 4 HDD in a icydock 4bay caddy run 2x 500gb mirror and 2x1tb mirror. Using CIFS/SMB, SSH, DLNA/UPnP, dynamic DNS, Webserver (owncloud) and BitTorrent for home use.
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Re: Newby with the same old questions.
I have "password authentication" checked and no certificates, only password.. So try to get that working first - then mess with private/public keys.
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Re: Newby with the same old questions.
all working, cert and key installed in the webgui, port forwarded to SSH port, SSH service only has port 22 and Password authentication.
i can not connect via dynDNS name.
thanks all, It seems to be secure, i hope so, i get the certificate autentication message thing.?
i can not connect via dynDNS name.
thanks all, It seems to be secure, i hope so, i get the certificate autentication message thing.?
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Re: Newby with the same old questions.
how i cant get this working...http://wiki.nas4free.org/doku.php?id=faq:0096
i can open the putty terminal to my nas via the DNS name. i can put in the following
$ ssh -v -p 445 -L 8888:localhost:444 LOCALID@MYNASNAME.dyndns.org
port 445 is port forwarded to port 22 for SSH.- i changed form port 22 as it wasnt working.
ive tried port 8888:localhost:22/443/444/445 in the string above to see if thats the problems, but it doesnt make any difference.
i can run the above and get the confirmation yes/no to accept the certificate, then the request for my password, then returns be back to the welcome banner/logon.
but i still cant run the last bit of the wiki quide, https://localhost:8888/
any one got any idea's???
i can open the putty terminal to my nas via the DNS name. i can put in the following
$ ssh -v -p 445 -L 8888:localhost:444 LOCALID@MYNASNAME.dyndns.org
port 445 is port forwarded to port 22 for SSH.- i changed form port 22 as it wasnt working.
ive tried port 8888:localhost:22/443/444/445 in the string above to see if thats the problems, but it doesnt make any difference.
i can run the above and get the confirmation yes/no to accept the certificate, then the request for my password, then returns be back to the welcome banner/logon.
but i still cant run the last bit of the wiki quide, https://localhost:8888/
any one got any idea's???
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Re: Newby with the same old questions.
Any help anyone please?
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Re: Newby with the same old questions.
Hi, does anyone else use SSH like this to get to the main nas4free webgui? or is accessing it via port forwarding using https as secure as using SSH?
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