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Slow file search...

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Hello and happy new year!

I am using nas4free on a network with windows clients on it (windows 7 and windows xp) and i have many small files doc and xls generally. Like 5gb of small files categorized in folders.

My problem is that when i use windows 7 search bar, the search time is much more than normal. And its preety annoying makes file search on nas4free almost unusable!

Anyone can help?

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Re: Slow file search...

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Hi Torgele,

Is your Win 7 searching an indexed location or not?

Let us know,
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I checked the indexing service or windows7 and the NAS location is not included.

Its not on the list and how i can add it? If its needed.

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Hi Torgele,

I do not think there is a solution for non-MS servers.
As you may know, searching non-indexed locations is much slower than indexed ones. I am not surprised by your answer, when I found out that Windows 7 would not index a non-MS shared location I gave up and stopped using it :roll: . I had thought that by now MS would have realized this was not a good idea, but apparently I am wrong. I have just spent 2 hours trying to see if this issue has been addressed in Win 7 or 8 and apparently it has not.
To improve the search speed you need to index the network share, but it is not clear to me that MS has made this easy or even possible for non-MS servers. I am sorry that I don't have a better answer for you but MS just makes it too difficult to determine if this possible. In theory it is, but there is too much contradictory information for me to give you a definitive answer and good procedure to follow.
If you wish to pursue this you can start by reading The "Search programs and files" box on the Start menu does not search files on network locations that are not indexed in Windows 7 or in Windows Server 2008 R2, it looks like there might be a solution there, but I am doubtful.
If that does not work, try this Google search, there are lots of people with this problem, maybe one of them found a good solution, but it does not look like it to me.

I am sorry I can't offer better news, regards,
Al

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Well, I am not at home right now to check, but I believe that right-clicking a mapped drive and selecting "Always Available Offline" will do the job..
Why don't you try and report the results?
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Hi ChriZathens,

Yes, but doesn't "Always Available Offline" just make a copy of the data on your computer? If the data winds up on client that would seem to make the NAS redundant.

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Post by ChriZathens »

Hmmm, I guess you are correct, Al... Stupid suggestion....
There is really an issue with microsoft not indexing unc loactions.. really..
@Torgele: The only other solution I could find, but haven't tried if it works, is this: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download ... px?id=3383
Download and install the msi package in your win7 machine
It will add a tab in the Indexing Options menu called "Add UNC Location" . From there you can input the path of your network folder(s).
Please report if it works..
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A nice solution would be to install an indexing service on NAS4Free (e.g. Xapian Omega).
The may advantage is that the indexing would not need to be done by each machine accessing the NAS, but only by the NAS itself.
I did not yet try to do it, but if anybody did, I would be very interessted to get some feedback.

Thanks

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fritz wrote:A nice solution would be to install an indexing service on NAS4Free (e.g. Xapian Omega).
The may advantage is that the indexing would not need to be done by each machine accessing the NAS, but only by the NAS itself.
I did not yet try to do it, but if anybody did, I would be very interessted to get some feedback.

Thanks

fritz
If NAS do this indexing stuff itself, how can it be integrated with MS explorer in Windows side?

In the WebGUI, there is a built-in function which came from quixplorer, the search can be done with this. But there is still the same problem with it - super slow searching! Once you click the search button, the page was stuck. Maybe it is easier to solve this question from quixplorer than waiting for MS?

OK it's just a blablabla...

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I learn about search engines. Range for indexers and searchers
1. As for me - better was Google Desktop, I use it parallel with xapian. But now it not avialable, may be old releases (I cannot renew ubuntu for new releases :evil: ). make index for all files, exclude system. If it installed on Windows, it give access from network.
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2. Second deprecated - Beagle. It worked on *NIX, have webaccess, but I cannot compile it for FreeBSD, I tried it under Linux.
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In this section I put text-only searchers, but wit access over web.
3. Xapian with omega - no need running database, work on NAS4Free or full or under jail.
4. SwishE - with database / without.
5. Datapark Search, ht/dig, Mnogosearch and some - need running database, so resources.
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Windows searchers as the worst that I tried. Not have web interface, index takes a lot of resources, and not give access for another users over network.
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Google destop make index for my share (over network) -~ 20 hours, but I reindex it one time per month.
Xapian-omega was work from november 2011. Some smb share it indexed ~ 2 hours when I have 1G RAM. With 512 M - not work.
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