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[SOLVED] Upgrade from Embedded to Full
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[SOLVED] Upgrade from Embedded to Full
I'm going to get a cheap 60 GB SSD and make that my boot drive so I can install some additional packages. I searched but could not find procedures for moving from Embedded to Full. Is it possible to install full and restore my embedded config?
TIA,
Paul
TIA,
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Re: Upgrade from Embedded to Full
I have installed from embedded to full by using 'live CD' clean install.
Procedure normal full install which makes the Hard disk reformated, in which I do not have Data or have to save or sacrifice them.
Before that I've made cofiguration save through GUI and restored it after full install.
I've found back again all my HDDs.
Only thing which is not pleasent in it, you will not have 'upgrades' possible thereafter directly from GUI !! you have to upgrade by using only live CD.
Procedure normal full install which makes the Hard disk reformated, in which I do not have Data or have to save or sacrifice them.
Before that I've made cofiguration save through GUI and restored it after full install.
I've found back again all my HDDs.
Only thing which is not pleasent in it, you will not have 'upgrades' possible thereafter directly from GUI !! you have to upgrade by using only live CD.
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Re: Upgrade from Embedded to Full
YEs, as described rpj.paulg wrote: Is it possible to install full and restore my embedded config?
TIA,
When promt for space to install , 384MB is default, please modify to your needs, and do not use Swap partition
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Re: Upgrade from Embedded to Full
Please explain, why should I not put a swap partition on the SSD disk?
When promt for space to install , 384MB is default, please modify to your needs, and do not use Swap partition
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Re: Upgrade from Embedded to Full
Because is not needed, other installations that have only 1GB of RAM do not have swap , is a waste of space that never can be used, and that you can use for other use ( eg: to mount as temp parttition to store torrentns downloads or the DDBB of minidlna or fuppes to speed this procceses)
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Re: Upgrade from Embedded to Full
Thank you, I still do not quite understand so please excuse my questions if they sound redundent!
I'f I do a fresh FULL installation, will I be able to update through the GUI or will I always have to use a CD?
I just aquired a 160GB notbook drive which will become my boot drive. If I install the full version of N4F, will FreeBSD base OS upgrades happen from N4F releases or would I use?
Thanks,
Pau
I'f I do a fresh FULL installation, will I be able to update through the GUI or will I always have to use a CD?
I just aquired a 160GB notbook drive which will become my boot drive. If I install the full version of N4F, will FreeBSD base OS upgrades happen from N4F releases or would I use
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Re: Upgrade from Embedded to Full
always you need to use CD ( update through GUI is reserved to embeded install).paulg wrote:I'f I do a fresh FULL installation, will I be able to update through the GUI or will I always have to use a CD?
from NAS4Free you can see how many and what is updated on: http://nas4free.svn.sourceforge.net/vie ... /?view=logpaulg wrote: If I install the full version of N4F, will FreeBSD base OS upgrades happen from N4F releases
PD: when promt for space in full install use 32GB you don't need to use more neverless the aditional packages that install, the rest (130GB) can be used to mount a UFS partition to store temp files, fuppes DDBB, your web page, files from Owncloud if you install it, etc...
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Re: Upgrade from Embedded to Full
When running a FULL installation you will have to use the Live CD to update, ONLY embedded installations can use the GUI to updatepaulg wrote:I'f I do a fresh FULL installation, will I be able to update through the GUI or will I always have to use a CD?
NAS 1: Running 9.1.0.1.804 embedded (i386) 4GB CF Card | Pentium 4 2.66GHz | 1.5Gb RAM
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NAS 2: Running 9.1.0.1.804 embedded (i386) 4GB CF Card | AMD Athlon XP 2600+ | 1Gb RAM
Storage : 1 x Western Digital 40GB, 1 x Hitachi Deskstar 120GB External USB
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Re: Upgrade from Embedded to Full
Thanks for the help folks. The upgrade was "near" flawless. The only issue was the drives shifted and the new drive became ada0 so I had to setup the ZFS pool again which was fairly painless and without data loss. I appreciate all the work and all the support!
Thanks,
Paul
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Re: Upgrade from Embedded to Full
I upgraded from embedded install to full install, too. I chose 64GB space when I installed but how I can use rest of the space now (I have 500GB notebook HDD)? After installation I added the disk ada0 from Disk Management, then added Mount Point (Disk ada0, type MBR, Partition 2, UFS filesystem, name Data) and I didn't format it. Now it will show Data disk as 64GB but how can I use this rest free space from 500GB notebook drive? EDIT: solved by installing fresh install.raulfg3 wrote: PD: when promt for space in full install use 32GB you don't need to use more neverless the aditional packages that install, the rest (130GB) can be used to mount a UFS partition to store temp files, fuppes DDBB, your web page, files from Owncloud if you install it, etc...
I also restored settings from previous embedded installation and added ZFS pool (2TB disks in mirror). Then Management, Clear config and Import disks so Disk names are now correct.
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Re: Upgrade from Embedded to Full
Embedded install is also the prefered way for SSD's for a longer life of this hardware!
Embedded runs from ram to have way lesser write actions for a much longer life and can be easy and fast upgraded from GUI.
my 2 cents
Embedded runs from ram to have way lesser write actions for a much longer life and can be easy and fast upgraded from GUI.
my 2 cents
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Development system is same system in virtualbox.
Development system is same system in virtualbox.
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Re: Upgrade from Embedded to Full
Thanks, please can you check in latest version if is possible to format and use the second parttition of a full install on a SSD like describe maxximilian userzoon01 wrote:Embedded install is also the prefered way for SSD's for a longer life of this hardware!
Embedded runs from ram to have way lesser write actions for a much longer life and can be easy and fast upgraded from GUI.
my 2 cents
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Re: Upgrade from Embedded to Full
I already did a fresh install and now I can access this second partition so my problem is solved.raulfg3 wrote: Thanks, please can you check in latest version if is possible to format and use the second parttition of a full install on a SSD like describe maxximilian user
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Re: Upgrade from Embedded to Full
OK, I edit the post to add [SOLVED]
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