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USB Questions 4200 CE Winestra

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USB Questions 4200 CE Winestra

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I setup a nas4free server at a Igel.
I a bit confused about the USB Ports
There are 2 internal and 4 external Ports.
I am not sure which are usb 1.1 and which 2.0
At boot there are only 5 ports visible.
With dmesg I get the same info
There is only one USB 2.0 port.

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nas4free:~# dmesg -a |grep usb
usbus0 on uhci0
usbus1 on uhci1
usbus2 on uhci2
usbus3 on uhci3
usbus4: EHCI version 1.0
usbus4 on ehci0
usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0
usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0
usbus2: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0
usbus3: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0
usbus4: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0
ugen0.1: <VIA> at usbus0
uhub0: <VIA UHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usbus0
ugen1.1: <VIA> at usbus1
uhub1: <VIA UHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usbus1
ugen2.1: <VIA> at usbus2
uhub2: <VIA UHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usbus2
ugen3.1: <VIA> at usbus3
uhub3: <VIA UHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usbus3
ugen4.1: <VIA> at usbus4
uhub4: <VIA EHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1> on usbus4
ugen4.2: <JMicron> at usbus4
umass0: <MSC Bulk-Only Transfer> on usbus4

which one is the secret fast usb Port and where can I find info about the hidden 6.
I want to use the fastest ports for the USB Drives.
Test with USB IDE Platte give a result of only 10MB/sec
This should be more .. or ??

Thx 4 help

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uhci0: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> port 0xe400-0xe41f irq 11 at device 16.0 on pci0
usbus0 on uhci0
uhci1: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> port 0xe500-0xe51f irq 11 at device 16.1 on pci0
usbus1 on uhci1
uhci2: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> port 0xe600-0xe61f irq 10 at device 16.2 on pci0
usbus2 on uhci2
uhci3: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> port 0xe700-0xe71f irq 10 at device 16.3 on pci0
usbus3 on uhci3
ehci0: <VIA VT6202 USB 2.0 controller> mem 0xf6000000-0xf60000ff irq 10 at device 16.4 on pci0
usbus4: EHCI version 1.0
usbus4 on ehci0

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Re: USB Questions 4200 CE Winestra

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USB just sucks [IMHO]
especially so for data drives
OK to play with but when it comes to the real NAS build....
SATA is the way to go and I would NOT build with out it.

I have only limited experience with USB 3
it may have enough to do the job, or not.
4 thread 3300 Mhz Intel i3, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 7.823 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free 9.1.0.1 rev 573 [88 watts, 48 Mbps]
2 thread 1600 Mhz atom/ion, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 3.083 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free-9.1.0.1 rev 573 [27 watts, 35 Mbps]
2 thread 3900 Mhz AMD A6-6400K, 2 TB ZFS Mirror, available RAM 7.557 Gb, 64 bit Nas4Free 9.3.0.2.1771 [89 watts, 68 Mbps]

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Re: USB Questions 4200 CE Winestra

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ups forgot Details:

IGEL * Thin Client 4210 * TYP 5/4 * 1 Ghz CPU * CF-Flash 8 GB * 512 MB RAM

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Re: USB Questions 4200 CE Winestra

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It will work I suspect just not as well
not enough ram for use past the minimal
I am running two with ram between 1 and 2 Gb doing ZFS mirrors
I have run single UFS drives at 512 and less

I am just lucky with $0.11/KWH rates
4 thread 3300 Mhz Intel i3, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 7.823 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free 9.1.0.1 rev 573 [88 watts, 48 Mbps]
2 thread 1600 Mhz atom/ion, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 3.083 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free-9.1.0.1 rev 573 [27 watts, 35 Mbps]
2 thread 3900 Mhz AMD A6-6400K, 2 TB ZFS Mirror, available RAM 7.557 Gb, 64 bit Nas4Free 9.3.0.2.1771 [89 watts, 68 Mbps]

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Re: USB Questions 4200 CE Winestra

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ok I upgrade to the max which is 1 GB ram and will see

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harley64 wrote:ok I upgrade to the max which is 1 GB ram and will see
I have run embedded NAS4Free and ZFS mirrored drives on 1Gb ram
my cold stand by box is an old dell with 1 GB ram and two 320 Gb Hdd
it is not very fast [1.6 Ghz P-4] but works very well for a 10 YO desktop with PCI buss and PC-133 ram
I believe that a mirror is the least memory load of all the redundant drive configuration

here is your problem or conundrum. there is one PCI slot in the top end models
your choice is Gb lan or a SATA card
I would go with the SATA card even if your network is Gb
a faster network is not going to solve the slow speeds of USB connected drives,
but a faster drive connection will get you up to the limits of the processor, memory, buss, and lan

better speeds will need a Gb LAN, a MOBO with more memory, a faster processor and a PCI-e buss
4 thread 3300 Mhz Intel i3, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 7.823 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free 9.1.0.1 rev 573 [88 watts, 48 Mbps]
2 thread 1600 Mhz atom/ion, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 3.083 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free-9.1.0.1 rev 573 [27 watts, 35 Mbps]
2 thread 3900 Mhz AMD A6-6400K, 2 TB ZFS Mirror, available RAM 7.557 Gb, 64 bit Nas4Free 9.3.0.2.1771 [89 watts, 68 Mbps]

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Re: USB Questions 4200 CE Winestra

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I figuert out that may be the usb is not the problem. I plugin a IDE-133 controller. My first suprise was, that the card and the device was detected directly. Mountet and with full access as before with the usb connection. But ....
The thrueput in and out is again only 10MB/sec
I messured with "LAN Speed Test" from my win PC . The drive is connected with SMB
For example, if I do the same messuremant with my Sat-Reciever ( 1GB connection and fast Drive ) I came up to. 47/33 Mbit max. At a other Reciever with a 100MB connection. May be the network card is the bottleneck

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Re: USB Questions 4200 CE Winestra

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when testing hardware for speed
substitute one element at a time looking for better transfer speeds.

my advise for the top transfer speed, excluding the obvious, processor speeds, is...
enough fast DDR-3 ram on a PCI-e buss MOBO with enough of the fastest SATA connections
plus Gb LAN and, of course, an equally fast client computer.

but my first FN7 and N4F experiments were on a 933 P-III
I once had a network connection default to 10T due to bad cable
4 thread 3300 Mhz Intel i3, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 7.823 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free 9.1.0.1 rev 573 [88 watts, 48 Mbps]
2 thread 1600 Mhz atom/ion, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 3.083 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free-9.1.0.1 rev 573 [27 watts, 35 Mbps]
2 thread 3900 Mhz AMD A6-6400K, 2 TB ZFS Mirror, available RAM 7.557 Gb, 64 bit Nas4Free 9.3.0.2.1771 [89 watts, 68 Mbps]

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