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IBM x3650

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Hey,
I have an IBM x3650 I'm going to use as my storage, but I can't get it to boot from USB (to have N4F embedded/install on it).

The server has an Hardware Raid, so I was thinking about creating a small RAID 10 from the 6 drives just to install the system on it.


Would this work?
is there a better alternative...?

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Re: IBM x3650

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mtk wrote:Would this work?
yes, but is not recommended to have data in same disk ( raid disk) that you boot.
mtk wrote:s there a better alternative...?
YES , DO not use Hardware RAID, use soft raid like ZFS use, and boot from an old IDE disk ( old & cheap, but in good state) to install N4F full on it.

PD: If do not have old IDE support, try to use one SATA port to boot from it, and google a bit to find why your IBM x3650 do not boot from USB ( Perhaps you need to change some values on BIOS)
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some googlee search: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/comm ... 0014877599

https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/comm ... 0014710727

see latest comments that certain brands do not boot, but others , yes, so you need to test several USB keys until find one that works.
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Re: IBM x3650

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raulfg3 wrote:some googlee search: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/comm ... 0014877599

https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/comm ... 0014710727

see latest comments that certain brands do not boot, but others , yes, so you need to test several USB keys until find one that works.
Thanks, I already read those.
I tried another USB stick and now it seems to allow it to boot (although it cannot be set in the BIOS directly).


now I need to figure out it it really boots (currently, not :) )

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some older bios do not boot USB sticks over 2 Gb
just dumb file handling limitations
try and reformat with a less than 2 Gb fat partition.

some larger USB sticks have non boot-able file drivers for non fat file systems

unless the hardware is free take a pass on PCI hardware in favor of PCI-e
PCI is at the bottom of my 3 performance wise
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Re: IBM x3650

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armandh wrote:some older bios do not boot USB sticks over 2 Gb
just dumb file handling limitations
try and reformat with a less than 2 Gb fat partition.

some larger USB sticks have non boot-able file drivers for non fat file systems
different stick, seems to boot... :)

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and lastly are you trying to boot the wrong ver [64 Vs 32]
see if the hardware will boot N4F from a small Hdd
4 thread 3300 Mhz Intel i3, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 7.823 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free 9.1.0.1 rev 573 [88 watts, 48 Mbps]
2 thread 1600 Mhz atom/ion, 1 TB ZFS mirror, available RAM 3.083 Gb, 64 bit NAS4Free-9.1.0.1 rev 573 [27 watts, 35 Mbps]
2 thread 3900 Mhz AMD A6-6400K, 2 TB ZFS Mirror, available RAM 7.557 Gb, 64 bit Nas4Free 9.3.0.2.1771 [89 watts, 68 Mbps]

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