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by Neo » 03 Sep 2013 15:33
Today I reviewed the S.M.A.R.T report of my HDDs and the report is as following:
HDD1 (WD)
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ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 51 Pre-fail Always - 0
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 253 167 21 Pre-fail Always - 950
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 0 Old_age Always - 716
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 191 191 140 Pre-fail Always - 179
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 200 195 0 Old_age Always - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 70 70 0 Old_age Always - 22445
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 0 Old_age Always - 0
11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 0 Old_age Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 0 Old_age Always - 221
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 0 Old_age Always - 203
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 1 1 0 Old_age Always - 855198
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 112 82 0 Old_age Always - 38
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 136 136 0 Old_age Always - 64
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 0 Old_age Always - 1
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 200 200 0 Old_age Offline - 1
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 185 0 Old_age Always - 69
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 200 166 0 Old_age Offline - 52
HDD2 (WD)
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ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 198 198 51 Pre-fail Always - 313379
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 146 133 21 Pre-fail Always - 9683
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 98 98 0 Old_age Always - 2547
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 200 200 0 Old_age Always - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 73 73 0 Old_age Always - 19765
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 0 Old_age Always - 0
11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 0 Old_age Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 0 Old_age Always - 883
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 0 Old_age Always - 677
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 157 157 0 Old_age Always - 129297
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 109 67 0 Old_age Always - 43
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 0 Old_age Always - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 195 195 0 Old_age Always - 1449
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 200 195 0 Old_age Offline - 1
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 0 Old_age Always - 16
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 59 1 0 Old_age Offline - 24319
Do you think something is wrong?
Please help.
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by b0ssman » 03 Sep 2013 15:38
yes they are failing.
the first one worse than the second one.
let me take a guess. they are wd green drives and you forgot to run wdidle3?
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by Neo » 03 Sep 2013 15:45
Your guess is absolutely right. Both are WD.
First one is still in warranty, what should I tell WD about the drive. I have never returned a drive before.
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by b0ssman » 03 Sep 2013 15:51
i never done it but i think you do a test with this utility and then select "ENTER AND PRINT RMA INFORMATION "
http://support.wdc.com/product/download ... =2&lang=en
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by Neo » 03 Sep 2013 15:58
Thanks, now that would mean taking the HDD out. Some work for me.
Can I use idle3-tools as an alternate to widdle3?
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by b0ssman » 03 Sep 2013 21:35
no point in using them on the drives anymore they are on the way out.
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by Neo » 07 Sep 2013 14:54
I ran WD Diag tool on the first HDD and it passed both the test. So does it mean I cant RMA them? Please suggest.
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by ku-gew » 07 Sep 2013 15:06
I thought WDIDLE doesn't work anymore on recent drives.
HP Microserver N40L, 8 GB ECC, 2x 3TB WD Red, 2x 4TB WD Red
XigmaNAS stable branch, always latest version
SMB, rsync
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by b0ssman » 07 Sep 2013 18:05
they are not recent. at least 2.5 years old.
the entry
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 1 1 0 Old_age Always - 855198
shows that wdidle3 was not run
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by Lee Sharp » 10 Sep 2013 22:50
The official WD position is that load cycle count is not an issue. (Until the drive fails) Reallocated sectors can be... So, by the WD tool and the company position, your drives are fine, but one is showing potential for failure. (A few reallocated sectors) In reality, there is some risk of a major failure with no warning. However, WD will do nothing until it happens.
How are your backups?