Hello,
My Nas4Free Build is:
Motherboard: GigaByte GA-G41MT-S2PT (1 x PCI Express x16 slot, running at x16, 1 x PCI Express x1 slot, 2 x PCI slots, 4 x SATA 3Gb/s connectors)
Processor: Intel Pentium D CPU 2.80GHz
Ram: 2GB Kingston DDR3 @ 1333Mhz
Storage: 2X1TB WD and 1X2TB WD
Power Supply: CoolerMaster 430W
Casing: Open front, open side, old casing ripped apart.
Network: Giga ethernet throughout.
Services I am using is:
Samba, NFS, SSH,Dynamic DNS and have also install deluge torrent server.
File System: for all drives is, UFS.
Nas4Free Version: FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE-p5 (kern.osreldate: 901000)
Now I thinking of expanding its storage capabilities, now when I started off with my build I did the stupidity of buying green drives, and they are running on Sata1, now I plan on buying WD 2TB SATA3 one at a time, but seeing that my motherboard only supports maximum SATA2, I was thinking of buying a storage controller, with SATA3 Support, with >=4 SATA3 Ports. and I can use any of these slots (1 x PCI Express x16 slot, 1 x PCI Express x1 slot, 2 x PCI slots). now I need your help, to find me good storage controller, I do not need RAID support and all. Just a simple Storage Controller with SATA3 Support and >= 4 Ports.
and I thinking of Making the shift to ZFS that would require More Ram and Better Processor right ? or Should I just give up on this rig and by AMD Apu and motherboard with 8 ports of SATA3 board ?
Thanks
Kazi Murtaza
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WTB Storage Controller
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Re: WTB Storage Controller
Hmmm, as for me for home users not differences between SATA2 and SATA3.
Speed ?? Haha, 6Gb/s or 3Gb/s is speed from host to disk buffer. Speed from host to disk considerably less, ~50-120 MB/s
Speed ?? Haha, 6Gb/s or 3Gb/s is speed from host to disk buffer. Speed from host to disk considerably less, ~50-120 MB/s
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Re: WTB Storage Controller
I use and recommend : http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid= ... &_from=R40
But I say same as Alexey123 you do not notice any speed improvemens.
So my suggest is: Try ZFS your data are more secure, and test speed, having disk in ZFS mirror and create a pool of mirros is a good way to have a grow system and a speedy system.
But I say same as Alexey123 you do not notice any speed improvemens.
Your spec are right to have a decent Home NAS, ZFS works fine whit only 2GB if you do not use advanced features like dedupe, (Works a slighty better if you have 4GB), but the recommendation of have 1GB of RAM per 1TB of data is only necessary if you use dedupe.kazimurtaza wrote:and I thinking of Making the shift to ZFS that would require More Ram and Better Processor right ? or Should I just give up on this rig and by AMD Apu and motherboard with 8 ports of SATA3 board ?
So my suggest is: Try ZFS your data are more secure, and test speed, having disk in ZFS mirror and create a pool of mirros is a good way to have a grow system and a speedy system.
12.1.0.4 - Ingva (revision 7743) on SUPERMICRO X8SIL-F 8GB of ECC RAM, 11x3TB disk in 1 vdev = Vpool = 32TB Raw size , so 29TB usable size (I Have other NAS as Backup)
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Re: WTB Storage Controller
I have multiple 2 HTPC's for Full HD movies, and various system using that system for storage purposes, I don't want to bottleneck anything .. and I would like to invest only once.alexey123 wrote:Hmmm, as for me for home users not differences between SATA2 and SATA3.
Speed ?? Haha, 6Gb/s or 3Gb/s is speed from host to disk buffer. Speed from host to disk considerably less, ~50-120 MB/s
LSI SAS 9211-8i 8-Port 6Gb/s SAS/SATA PCI-e RAID Controller, seems like a perfect option, but isn't there something else, equal in performance but cheaper in price ?raulfg3 wrote:I use and recommend : http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid= ... &_from=R40
no I am not using anything like dedupe, so Ill switch to ZFS with new WD RED drives and add one another ram just to be sure.raulfg3 wrote: But I say same as Alexey123 you do not notice any speed improvemens.
Your spec are right to have a decent Home NAS, ZFS works fine whit only 2GB if you do not use advanced features like dedupe, (Works a slighty better if you have 4GB), but the recommendation of have 1GB of RAM per 1TB of data is only necessary if you use dedupe.kazimurtaza wrote:and I thinking of Making the shift to ZFS that would require More Ram and Better Processor right ? or Should I just give up on this rig and by AMD Apu and motherboard with 8 ports of SATA3 board ?
So my suggest is: Try ZFS your data are more secure, and test speed, having disk in ZFS mirror and create a pool of mirros is a good way to have a grow system and a speedy system.
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Old post but totally true: http://constantin.glez.de/blog/2010/01/ ... still-best
Mirrors improve your read speed.
Mirrors improve your read speed.
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Re: WTB Storage Controller
You must do as you want. But read it first http://www.buildcomputers.net/hard-disk-speed.html "SATA 3 Hard Disk Drives = Faster than SATA 2 Drives - False"kazimurtaza wrote:I have multiple 2 HTPC's for Full HD movies, and various system using that system for storage purposes, I don't want to bottleneck anything .. and I would like to invest only once.
Your network (usually 1GB/s, really less, I tested maximum speed 102MB/s, it give to see 3 films per time, 2 per TV and 1 per PC ) will slower then SATA2.
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I recently purchased this: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=ls ... r&_sacat=0kazimurtaza wrote:LSI SAS 9211-8i 8-Port 6Gb/s SAS/SATA PCI-e RAID Controller, seems like a perfect option, but isn't there something else, equal in performance but cheaper in price ?raulfg3 wrote:I use and recommend : http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid= ... &_from=R40
raulfg3 wrote:
Sata2 (does not matter, trust me) but limited to 2tb disks (for me no problem)
My Nas
Backup Nas: U-NAS NSC-400, Gigabyte MB10-DS4 (4x4TB Seagate Exos disks in RaidZ configuration - 32GB RAM)
- Case: Fractal Design Define R2
- M/B: Supermicro x9scl-f
- CPU: Intel Celeron G1620
- RAM: 16GB DDR3 ECC (2 x Kingston KVR1333D3E9S/8G)
- PSU: Chieftec 850w 80+ modular
- Storage: 8x2TB HDDs in a RaidZ2 array ~ 10.1 TB usable disk space
- O/S: XigmaNAS 11.2.0.4.6625 -amd64 embedded
- Extra H/W: Dell Perc H310 SAS controller, crosflashed to LSI 9211-8i IT mode, 8GB Innodisk D150SV SATADOM for O/S
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Re: WTB Storage Controller
Unless you purchase fast SSD drives, the spinning platters are your limitation, not SATA2. Spend that money elsewhere.