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Update: Asrock C2550D4I now working

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Re: Update: Asrock C2550D4I now working

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crowi wrote:Are you sure that the board is powered up?
The screenshot tells that the Computer is turned off...
There are LEDs on the board are they on or off?
I think it is powered up. The sensor monitoring is fine
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Have tried to power cycle the server. Still no display on the remote console.
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Re: Update: Asrock C2550D4I now working

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Do you get any entries in the IPMI log?
It looks like it doesn't start, maybe the RAM is not installed correctly. Did you put it into the blue slots or the white slots?
NAS 1: Milchkuh: Asrock C2550D4I, Intel Avoton C2550 Quad-Core, 16GB DDR3 ECC, 5x3TB WD Red RaidZ1 +60 GB SSD for ZIL/L2ARC, APC-Back UPS 350 CS, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
NAS 2: Backup: HP N54L, 8 GB ECC RAM, 4x4 TB WD Red, RaidZ1, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
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Re: Update: Asrock C2550D4I now working

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crowi wrote:Do you get any entries in the IPMI log?
It looks like it doesn't start, maybe the RAM is not installed correctly. Did you put it into the blue slots or the white slots?
it is a single Kingston 8G 1.35V non-ECC memory.have tried either blue or white with no luck.

VCCM value on the sensor monitor is 1.51V. Could it be the cause?

btw, the BMC firmware is 0.14.0.

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Re: Update: Asrock C2550D4I now working

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chinroc wrote:
crowi wrote:it is a single Kingston 8G 1.35V non-ECC memory.have tried either blue or white with no luck.
there is your problem the board requires ecc memory.

why are you buying a server grade mainboard without ecc memory?
Nas4Free 11.1.0.4.4517. Supermicro X10SLL-F, 16gb ECC, i3 4130, IBM M1015 with IT firmware. 4x 3tb WD Red, 4x 2TB Samsung F4, both GEOM AES 256 encrypted.

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Re: Update: Asrock C2550D4I now working

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b0ssman wrote:
chinroc wrote:
crowi wrote:it is a single Kingston 8G 1.35V non-ECC memory.have tried either blue or white with no luck.
there is your problem the board requires ecc memory.

why are you buying a server grade mainboard without ecc memory?

@b0ssman

AsRock has confirmed it supports non-ECC memory, at http://www.asrockrack.com/general/produ ... mory%20QVL

many builders use non-ECC memory with succes

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Re: Update: Asrock C2550D4I now working

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but why would you not use ecc memory?

anyway is your memory on the qvl list?
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Re: Update: Asrock C2550D4I now working

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it is a single Kingston 8G 1.35V non-ECC
Kingston RAM was not working on my board, too. I switched to Samsung 8GB 1600 ECC DIMM and it runs perfectly.
BUT, as b0ssman already mentioned, there is NO reason not to use ECC RAM, much more, it is prerequisite to use ECC for ZFS.
NAS 1: Milchkuh: Asrock C2550D4I, Intel Avoton C2550 Quad-Core, 16GB DDR3 ECC, 5x3TB WD Red RaidZ1 +60 GB SSD for ZIL/L2ARC, APC-Back UPS 350 CS, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
NAS 2: Backup: HP N54L, 8 GB ECC RAM, 4x4 TB WD Red, RaidZ1, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
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Re: Update: Asrock C2550D4I now working

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hi all

just thought i'd share my (crappy) experience with this board as well.

About the same things happened to me, except I had RAM from the QVL list as well as from an online review with a part# to working RAM... didn't matter for me... I could connect to IPMI and see all status and power cycle the board but could not get into the BIOS no matter what I tried. Was even able to update the BMC firmware but could not get into BIOS or get a video signal. Java console redirection just said machine is off or asleep even though I could see status and services running. Tried a single stick of my ECC ram in different slots, no go. Thanks to this forum post and many others, finally tried a random stick of non ECC memory from a gaming PC and was able to boot into BIOS and everything. Once I was in BIOS i upgraded to latest firmware and updated the Marvell controller firmware. After doing that I carefully tried 1 stick and then another of my original ECC ram, everything seems to be working fine now. Exhausted, that took about 8 hours... praying that I am through the rough stuff and that my nas4free install tomorrow will go smoothly. would NOT recommend this board, even if it does end up working fine. total waste of time.

will let you all know how it turns out once i get n4f running (hopefully)... thanks!

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chinroc wrote:
b0ssman wrote:
chinroc wrote:
crowi wrote:it is a single Kingston 8G 1.35V non-ECC memory.have tried either blue or white with no luck.
there is your problem the board requires ecc memory.

why are you buying a server grade mainboard without ecc memory?

@b0ssman

AsRock has confirmed it supports non-ECC memory, at http://www.asrockrack.com/general/produ ... mory%20QVL

many builders use non-ECC memory with succes
C2550d4i/C2750d4i does support non-ECC memory, however, it has to be UDIMM (unbuffered)... if it's not UDIMM, the system won't display any video output.

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Re: Update: Asrock C2550D4I now working

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I am trying to do this install with the same board but can't figure out how to turn on vga output.

My other pic is running windows 8.1 pro

Can't seem to be able to run ipmitools
I did the msi install but it still says some dll is missing.

Can somebody help me please. I need help getting to the post screen. Thanks

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Re: Update: Asrock C2550D4I now working

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Did you connect a screen to the board?
Which RAM type and brand do you use?
You don't need ipmitools, you can acces the IPMI via a web browser from another machine, just connect the IPMI port to your LAN and then enter the IP in your browser
NAS 1: Milchkuh: Asrock C2550D4I, Intel Avoton C2550 Quad-Core, 16GB DDR3 ECC, 5x3TB WD Red RaidZ1 +60 GB SSD for ZIL/L2ARC, APC-Back UPS 350 CS, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
NAS 2: Backup: HP N54L, 8 GB ECC RAM, 4x4 TB WD Red, RaidZ1, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
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I am using CRUCIAL CT2KIT102472BD160B 16 GB Kit (2x8GB)

I connected my monitor to the VGA connection on the board.

I got to the JViewer, but cannot see anything on it!

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I went back and read the thread again and figured something might be wrong with the build itself. So i went back into the case stripped it down (No drives) and started again. Figured out the memory was not seated properly. Once that was done, the card booted up and now i love the IPMI interface. I could connect my CD from my main machine to it to install NAS4Free.
I actually didnt need to write the iso image as i could have loaded the iso image as a CD drive through the IPMI interface. It actually booted from there. Impressive.

Now on to NAS4Free setup and figuring out what i did wrong there. I am trying with only one disk to see how it goes. Once i figure it out i can delete everything and start over properly :)

Thank you very much

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Re: Update: Asrock C2550D4I now working

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Actually it is the RAM in most cases when the screen stays black.
You should also check if you have the latest BIOS (currently v2.10) and BMC (v00.19.00) version, additionally there is a firmware update for the Marvel SATA contrioller out--> http://www.asrockrack.com/support/ipmi.asp#Marvell9230
Have fun,

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Crowi, thanks for the help. Bios and mc are up today's. Not using the 9230 and so didn't update it

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Hi, i've buyed a brand new Asrock C2550D4I a couple of weeks ago and i've start playing with it using one pair of NON-ECC memory sticks, it worked smoothly out of the box also with VGA (you have to be really patient)
But i was also looking for a memory ugrade so i've took 4x2GB ECC RAM sticks (mt18jsf25672pdz-1g4f1dd) on ebay, so i've filled the memory slot with that and powered on the nas but the motherboard run like normal (green led + heartbeat) but actually doesn't boot and i've no video output either on VGA or IPMI

"what a shame!" i think, so take off the ECC RAM and place back the NON-ECC one but when power on the NAS, the mainboard shows red leds blink twice and then the system reboots, that repeated endlessly
of curse with no video out

any idea on the way to fix this mess? may i have harmed the mainboard simply placing a wrong ram?
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firmware: 	11.1.0.4 - Atomics (revision 4528)
setup:		x64-embedded on 16GB microSD (Samsung MB-MP16D/EU)
case:		Cooler Master Silencio 550
mb:		ASROCK C2550D4I
cpu:		Intel Avoton C2550 @ 2.40GHz
ram:		32GB DDR3 ECC (4x Kingston KVR16E11/8)
hds:		4x2TB RaidZ (WD20EFRX)
cold spare:	1x WD20EFRX

BACKUP
NETGEAR ReadyNAS Duo
hds:		2x500GB Raid1 (WD5000AADS)
cold spare:	1x WD5000AADS

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Re: Update: Asrock C2550D4I now working

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Is this memory on the list of approved RAM from the manufacturer ? Think crowi (or someone else) mentioned somewhere this board is somewhat picky with regard to RAM.
my NAS and its development until today: viewtopic.php?f=63&t=39&sid=039fed830cf ... 4d0abe4a04

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no, they aren't (the smallest stick in the QVL is 4GB)

UPDATE: i've made the NAS boots with only one NON-ECC stick plugged into the A1 slot, now i will probably upgrade the bios

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firmware: 	11.1.0.4 - Atomics (revision 4528)
setup:		x64-embedded on 16GB microSD (Samsung MB-MP16D/EU)
case:		Cooler Master Silencio 550
mb:		ASROCK C2550D4I
cpu:		Intel Avoton C2550 @ 2.40GHz
ram:		32GB DDR3 ECC (4x Kingston KVR16E11/8)
hds:		4x2TB RaidZ (WD20EFRX)
cold spare:	1x WD20EFRX

BACKUP
NETGEAR ReadyNAS Duo
hds:		2x500GB Raid1 (WD5000AADS)
cold spare:	1x WD5000AADS

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Re: Update: Asrock C2550D4I now working

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Since you bought RAM , why didn't you search for compatible in the first place?
Those sticks you bought would never work because they are registered ecc, while this board supports only unbuffered...
My Nas
  1. Case: Fractal Design Define R2
  2. M/B: Supermicro x9scl-f
  3. CPU: Intel Celeron G1620
  4. RAM: 16GB DDR3 ECC (2 x Kingston KVR1333D3E9S/8G)
  5. PSU: Chieftec 850w 80+ modular
  6. Storage: 8x2TB HDDs in a RaidZ2 array ~ 10.1 TB usable disk space
  7. O/S: XigmaNAS 11.2.0.4.6625 -amd64 embedded
  8. Extra H/W: Dell Perc H310 SAS controller, crosflashed to LSI 9211-8i IT mode, 8GB Innodisk D150SV SATADOM for O/S

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ChriZathens wrote:Since you bought RAM , why didn't you search for compatible in the first place?
of course i've do some research for the certified RAM stick and i've found that they will cost me some hundreds euros when this ones only costs few tens

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firmware: 	11.1.0.4 - Atomics (revision 4528)
setup:		x64-embedded on 16GB microSD (Samsung MB-MP16D/EU)
case:		Cooler Master Silencio 550
mb:		ASROCK C2550D4I
cpu:		Intel Avoton C2550 @ 2.40GHz
ram:		32GB DDR3 ECC (4x Kingston KVR16E11/8)
hds:		4x2TB RaidZ (WD20EFRX)
cold spare:	1x WD20EFRX

BACKUP
NETGEAR ReadyNAS Duo
hds:		2x500GB Raid1 (WD5000AADS)
cold spare:	1x WD5000AADS

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so then please report about the outcome of your tests....
my NAS and its development until today: viewtopic.php?f=63&t=39&sid=039fed830cf ... 4d0abe4a04

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The board boot properly when I use only the A1 slot, no matter which one stick I put in it, but if I use A1 + A2 slots doesn't boot (red leds and restart), I've tried also A1 + B1 and the system starts but memtest it's full of errors

I've discovered that the bios was already at the last version but I've flash it anyway

Now the system is running with only one stick and the memtest is clean

Any idea of what's going on?



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NASSERVER
firmware: 	11.1.0.4 - Atomics (revision 4528)
setup:		x64-embedded on 16GB microSD (Samsung MB-MP16D/EU)
case:		Cooler Master Silencio 550
mb:		ASROCK C2550D4I
cpu:		Intel Avoton C2550 @ 2.40GHz
ram:		32GB DDR3 ECC (4x Kingston KVR16E11/8)
hds:		4x2TB RaidZ (WD20EFRX)
cold spare:	1x WD20EFRX

BACKUP
NETGEAR ReadyNAS Duo
hds:		2x500GB Raid1 (WD5000AADS)
cold spare:	1x WD5000AADS

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Re: Update: Asrock C2550D4I now working

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Any idea of what's going on?
Looks like you toasted the mainboard with a defective / not supported RAM stick.

The board is indeed picky regarding the RAM, that's what a QVL is good for, especially on server grade and quite expensive hardware I would stick to recommendations.
NAS 1: Milchkuh: Asrock C2550D4I, Intel Avoton C2550 Quad-Core, 16GB DDR3 ECC, 5x3TB WD Red RaidZ1 +60 GB SSD for ZIL/L2ARC, APC-Back UPS 350 CS, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
NAS 2: Backup: HP N54L, 8 GB ECC RAM, 4x4 TB WD Red, RaidZ1, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
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Hard lesson to learn.. There is something else i can try?

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firmware: 	11.1.0.4 - Atomics (revision 4528)
setup:		x64-embedded on 16GB microSD (Samsung MB-MP16D/EU)
case:		Cooler Master Silencio 550
mb:		ASROCK C2550D4I
cpu:		Intel Avoton C2550 @ 2.40GHz
ram:		32GB DDR3 ECC (4x Kingston KVR16E11/8)
hds:		4x2TB RaidZ (WD20EFRX)
cold spare:	1x WD20EFRX

BACKUP
NETGEAR ReadyNAS Duo
hds:		2x500GB Raid1 (WD5000AADS)
cold spare:	1x WD5000AADS

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There is something else i can try?
Return it to the vendor and try to get a replacement
NAS 1: Milchkuh: Asrock C2550D4I, Intel Avoton C2550 Quad-Core, 16GB DDR3 ECC, 5x3TB WD Red RaidZ1 +60 GB SSD for ZIL/L2ARC, APC-Back UPS 350 CS, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
NAS 2: Backup: HP N54L, 8 GB ECC RAM, 4x4 TB WD Red, RaidZ1, NAS4Free 11.0.0.4.3460 embedded
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sb00nk wrote:
ChriZathens wrote:Since you bought RAM , why didn't you search for compatible in the first place?
of course i've do some research for the certified RAM stick and i've found that they will cost me some hundreds euros when this ones only costs few tens
Agreed, but now there are a few tens thrown away...
And crucial has compatible 8GB ram with 99euros...
http://eu.crucial.com/eur/en/compatible ... k/c2550d4i
My Nas
  1. Case: Fractal Design Define R2
  2. M/B: Supermicro x9scl-f
  3. CPU: Intel Celeron G1620
  4. RAM: 16GB DDR3 ECC (2 x Kingston KVR1333D3E9S/8G)
  5. PSU: Chieftec 850w 80+ modular
  6. Storage: 8x2TB HDDs in a RaidZ2 array ~ 10.1 TB usable disk space
  7. O/S: XigmaNAS 11.2.0.4.6625 -amd64 embedded
  8. Extra H/W: Dell Perc H310 SAS controller, crosflashed to LSI 9211-8i IT mode, 8GB Innodisk D150SV SATADOM for O/S

Backup Nas: U-NAS NSC-400, Gigabyte MB10-DS4 (4x4TB Seagate Exos disks in RaidZ configuration - 32GB RAM)

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Thanks to you both, now I will try to do it in the right way, wish me luck =)



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firmware: 	11.1.0.4 - Atomics (revision 4528)
setup:		x64-embedded on 16GB microSD (Samsung MB-MP16D/EU)
case:		Cooler Master Silencio 550
mb:		ASROCK C2550D4I
cpu:		Intel Avoton C2550 @ 2.40GHz
ram:		32GB DDR3 ECC (4x Kingston KVR16E11/8)
hds:		4x2TB RaidZ (WD20EFRX)
cold spare:	1x WD20EFRX

BACKUP
NETGEAR ReadyNAS Duo
hds:		2x500GB Raid1 (WD5000AADS)
cold spare:	1x WD5000AADS

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I'm looking for the Value RAM KVR16E11/8 Kingston site states that's fine, what do you think about it?
http://www.kingston.com/it/memory/searc ... odel=87350

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firmware: 	11.1.0.4 - Atomics (revision 4528)
setup:		x64-embedded on 16GB microSD (Samsung MB-MP16D/EU)
case:		Cooler Master Silencio 550
mb:		ASROCK C2550D4I
cpu:		Intel Avoton C2550 @ 2.40GHz
ram:		32GB DDR3 ECC (4x Kingston KVR16E11/8)
hds:		4x2TB RaidZ (WD20EFRX)
cold spare:	1x WD20EFRX

BACKUP
NETGEAR ReadyNAS Duo
hds:		2x500GB Raid1 (WD5000AADS)
cold spare:	1x WD5000AADS

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kingston quality has declined over the last years.
problems with their ecc memory and the x10 range of supermicro after they changed parts on their product while keeping the manufacturer number the same.
changing components in their ssd after benchmark tests for the consumer market, resulting in worse performance.
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Yeap...
But after the ram issues they removed the x10 mobos from their compatibility list.
Since this one is still in the compatibility list, my best guess is that it will be fine - it is your money, though, so ...
My Nas
  1. Case: Fractal Design Define R2
  2. M/B: Supermicro x9scl-f
  3. CPU: Intel Celeron G1620
  4. RAM: 16GB DDR3 ECC (2 x Kingston KVR1333D3E9S/8G)
  5. PSU: Chieftec 850w 80+ modular
  6. Storage: 8x2TB HDDs in a RaidZ2 array ~ 10.1 TB usable disk space
  7. O/S: XigmaNAS 11.2.0.4.6625 -amd64 embedded
  8. Extra H/W: Dell Perc H310 SAS controller, crosflashed to LSI 9211-8i IT mode, 8GB Innodisk D150SV SATADOM for O/S

Backup Nas: U-NAS NSC-400, Gigabyte MB10-DS4 (4x4TB Seagate Exos disks in RaidZ configuration - 32GB RAM)

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