It is said often that RAID Z1 are no more reliable because of the URE rates given by manufacturers (1E-14 URE/bit read is common).
Typical source of this statement:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/storage/why-r ... n-2009/162
It appears that value has been lowered for marketing purposes, to sell higher class drives:
http://www.high-rely.com/hr_66/blog/why ... -2009-not/
Therefore, RAID Z1 is more reliable than we thought and it's not unreasonable for a home-level NAS4free to use RAID Z1 if disk prices are SO important (but are they? HDDs are cheap and RAID 1 has better performances where it matters).
Just for info.
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Safety of RAID Z1 and URE (HDD reliability)
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Safety of RAID Z1 and URE (HDD reliability)
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Re: Safety of RAID Z1 and URE (HDD reliability)
the problem with a 1 drive redundancy is that if one drive fails and you are rebuilding the following can happen.
- because of the strain of rebuilding, another drive can fail see most recent example viewtopic.php?f=66&t=6403
- any corruption that has gone unnoticed can not be repaired anymore because there is no data to reconstruct it from.
- because of the strain of rebuilding, another drive can fail see most recent example viewtopic.php?f=66&t=6403
- any corruption that has gone unnoticed can not be repaired anymore because there is no data to reconstruct it from.
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Re: Safety of RAID Z1 and URE (HDD reliability)
I know the issues of 1 drive redundancy, it's just a matter of probabilities and I wanted to point out that the URE probabilities are much lower than expected. Of course mechanical issues are still there.
Interesting with calculations:
http://superuser.com/questions/516949/f ... d-rebuild/
I chose RAID10 for my main server with disks bought from different batches and at months of distance (the ones bought early have been put to use immediately: the wear is different within each pair).
Interesting with calculations:
http://superuser.com/questions/516949/f ... d-rebuild/
I chose RAID10 for my main server with disks bought from different batches and at months of distance (the ones bought early have been put to use immediately: the wear is different within each pair).
HP Microserver N40L, 8 GB ECC, 2x 3TB WD Red, 2x 4TB WD Red
XigmaNAS stable branch, always latest version
SMB, rsync
XigmaNAS stable branch, always latest version
SMB, rsync