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Experiance with Seagate Archive 8TB 5900RPM SATA?

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Experiance with Seagate Archive 8TB 5900RPM SATA?

Post by lindsay »

Someone has experiance with this hdd ?
As i see it is very cheap compare to WD, but it is cold storage so it takes ages to transfer though (20-40MB/s)
Beside low transfer i do not see any other side effects.

Well some is writing about hdd is making high noice though
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Re: Experiance with Seagate Archive 8TB 5900RPM SATA?

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http://www.seagate.com/www-content/prod ... 1411us.pdf
See footnote 2 on page 1.

It depends on the use, the drives are more or less designed for WORM (write once read multiple) use, so if the data on the drive does not change too much and you can bear the poor write performance, you might be happy with them. Otherwise don't touch them. ;)
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I have a bad experience whit it, and need to refuse, I never can to complete a full copy of data.

My first attemp was to copy 5,6TB of data and fail about 40%.

next i'll try to copy 200 to 300 GB each time, works fine 3 o 4 times, and finally fail.

all times that fail, the HD was not recognized by S.O and I need to reformat from scratch so I need to start copying data from scratch.

conclusión: This HD is not for me ( not for a NAS use) or at least not to copy a great amount of data first time use.
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I have good experience so far except the second buy.
i habe 3 8TB as Raidz1 running so far without Problems(5 months now).(51% used)
(Write performence is not that Bad as some people are telling).
And i have 2 single ufs Disks, also without Problems.(both Disks are Full(300GB left)

The Bad experience was. when i bought the last two disk, both where faulty on arrive.
One was not recongnized at all, on was ok but gave errors on copying and later died complete(same error description like raulfg3, looks like a bad charge.
RMA both drives takes 2 weeks, new drives are ok.

Raulfg3 i thing u have also one faulty drive, rma it.
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When you say that write performance is not that bad, what do you mean? What is your write performance?
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ChriZathens wrote:When you say that write performance is not that bad, what do you mean? What is your write performance?

If you are refering to me i only read it on some forums i frequently visit.
I do also read they do not work nice when it comes to RAID.

But for my use wich is the same as they is for streaming movies,music,TV-shows, and they will not be part of any RAID
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Post by ChriZathens »

I was actually referring to jasch, who wrote that "Write performence is not that Bad as some people are telling".
I have also read in various places that they are slow, but I would like to actually know how slow the are.
My main NAS is actually a media archive, so for the price I would probably be willing to sacrifice performance...
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Post by jasch »

For me, the write performence of the single ufs drives was between 80 to 130MB/s.
Read is really good.
For example zfs scrub on my Raidz1 with 3 Drives makes arround 500MB/s avg.
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