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Why upgrade from a working 9.x.x version?

For "upgrading" from FreeNAS/NAS4Free Legacy to XigmaNAS and upgrading XigmaNAS to newer builds.
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Why upgrade from a working 9.x.x version?

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I see plenty of post on How can I upgrade and even more posts of something going wrong and many many hours spent after a upgrade to get it working. Sometimes they even have to revent back.

So why are people upgrading from a working NAS? The only reason I see is that they are cutting support for version 9.x.x.x but I don't see a list of
why version 9.3 is better than 9.1? or why 10.xx is better. I just see people upgrading for the sake of doing it. I don't see anyone upgrading because their nas is broken with version 9.1 sandstorm (very stable)

I see many new issues with new versions and lots of Don't do this because its broken etc.

I would like to see a comparison of versions. Its hard to see just what is different because the changelog does not mention things that might not run under the new version. things like MINIDLNA.

I am very hesitant to upgrade without a PRO/CON list of version 9 vs 10

My needs are basic, RAID 1 ZFS and MiniDLNA. I don't need the rest. Its just a simple box to store files, not trying to make it something its not.
NAS1 9.1.0.1-Sandstorm(847)- Intel G1610 @2.6Ghz / MB - Gigabyte B75M-3DH Ram - 8 gigs / HD - WD RED 2TB x 2 in Raid 1 ZFS
NAS2 9.3.0.2-Nayla(1771)- Quad Xeon(R) CPU 5150@2.66GHz x 2 / MB-Dell 490 8Gb ECC HD - Toshiba 5TB x 2 in Raid 1 ZFS
NAS3 10.2.0.2-Prester(1855) - LENOVO ThinkServer TS140 i3-4130 CPU@3.40GHz, Ram - 4GbECC / HD - WD RED 2TBx2 in Raid1 ZFS

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Re: Why upgrade from a working 9.x.x version?

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There were some security problems in 9.1. Other than that if your version is working fine for you there is no reason to upgrade. The main reason that nas4free is getting upgraded to the new version is hardware support. 9.1 for example had no support for the new Intel network cards. And since the development Team is small they can't keep supporting all old versions.


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Re: Why upgrade from a working 9.x.x version?

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Thanks BOssman,

That makes sense to support the newer hardware. On a fresh installation I would probably go with 10 but for my currents ones I don't want to rock the boat. Seems every time I upgrade its a more time than expected experience. I think I read that they don't recommend using older versions but failed to give a specific reason.
NAS1 9.1.0.1-Sandstorm(847)- Intel G1610 @2.6Ghz / MB - Gigabyte B75M-3DH Ram - 8 gigs / HD - WD RED 2TB x 2 in Raid 1 ZFS
NAS2 9.3.0.2-Nayla(1771)- Quad Xeon(R) CPU 5150@2.66GHz x 2 / MB-Dell 490 8Gb ECC HD - Toshiba 5TB x 2 in Raid 1 ZFS
NAS3 10.2.0.2-Prester(1855) - LENOVO ThinkServer TS140 i3-4130 CPU@3.40GHz, Ram - 4GbECC / HD - WD RED 2TBx2 in Raid1 ZFS

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Re: Why upgrade from a working 9.x.x version?

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The specific reason to not use old builds is security related.
Newer builds always fix a lot security issues and other small bugs.
it's not only nas4free code but also FreeBSD the underlying OS of NAS4Free

https://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories.html

For this my advice is to upgrade your system regular!
System specs: XigmaNAS 11.2.0.4 -embedded on Samsung 860 EVO 256GB and Supermicro X10SL7-F w / Bios v3.2, IPMI v.03.86 / CPU E3-1241 v3 @ 3.50GHz - 32GB Crucial DDR3L 1600mhz ECC 1.35v , LSI 2308 on PH20.00.07.00 IT mode, Storage: 5x Western Digital Red (WD30EFRX) raidz

Development system is same system in virtualbox.

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Re: Why upgrade from a working 9.x.x version?

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Everytime I upgrade from 1349 my cifs stuff breaks with my Win2k3 server, so until I move up to a different server I am not going to bother. If it ain't broke..don't try and fix it I say. My nas is internal behind 2x firewalls. So security is not a huge issue for me. Save yourself hours of work if you are happy with your current version. Work on an upgrade when you have new hardware to even bother.
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XigmaNAS: 11.2.0.4 - Omnius (revision 5774)
Case: Antec Perf Series P100 + Mediasonic ProBox H82-SU3S2 8 Bay
Motherboard: SuperMicro X8SIE
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3470 @ 2.93GHz
Memory: 32GB RDIMM/ECC PC3-8500 DDR3-1066mhz - HMT31GR7BFR8C-G7
Storage: 6x Seagate Barracuda 1TB ST31000528AS + 8x Western Digital 3TB WD Red WD30EFRX
System Disk: Kingspec 64GB SSD - ACSC2M064S25 SATA III
Network: LACP 3/Gbs (Intel EXPI9402PF 2 Port Fiber) + 1 Gb/s Intel Copper
Extensions: OneButtonInstaller, Extended GUI, Plex

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Re: Why upgrade from a working 9.x.x version?

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I upgraded from 9.1. to 9.3.0.2 and my issues so far:
Jails install but Plex wont transcode in it. now running it in a ubuntu virtualbox VM (slower)
Some status pages don't work, CIFS/SMB usage does not display
Many extra error lines regarding SMB/CIFS that i'm to annoyed to try and fix

Worse is that I cant install 9.1 on this hardware as the installer for virtualbox will not now find all required packages in 9.1 :(

At my old work the are running on an old freenas 0.74, or some such, that has been up for years as a scratch disk /dumping ground.

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VNET jails - awesome
NAS4Free Embedded 10.2.0.2 - Prester (revision 2003), HP N40L Microserver (AMD Turion) with modified BIOS, ZFS Mirror 4 x WD Red + L2ARC 128M Apple SSD, 10G ECC Ram, Intel 1G CT NIC + inbuilt broadcom

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Re: Why upgrade from a working 9.x.x version?

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CrashDavis wrote:Everytime I upgrade from 1349 my cifs stuff breaks with my Win2k3 server, so until I move up to a different server I am not going to bother. If it ain't broke..don't try and fix it I say. My nas is internal behind 2x firewalls. So security is not a huge issue for me. Save yourself hours of work if you are happy with your current version. Work on an upgrade when you have new hardware to even bother.
Same here, running stable and good on version "NAS4Free 9.2.0.1 (revision 972) x64-full", on ESXI. I will never upgrade to an newer hardware :lol:

I am using ZFS, I notice in the release notes there are some benefits made to the ZFS for handling the disks, but already have experienced a broken drive and the replacing the broken drive went with out issues. Although couldn't use the ZFS Tools, but the command line did the trick. SO, I guess that might be an case to upgrade for others... here, I believe in my current version for home usage.

command used: zpool replace pool123 ada3

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