Want to install usb embedded with data no swap

[fizzgig656]

I'm upgrading 9.2.0.1 to 10.2.0.2 so new installation. But I want to install it like before with embedded OS on usb with the rest of the space on the usb as a data parti on but I don't want swap. Then I can import my old raidz and carry on.
But I seem to be only able to install embedded with swap and data option 1 or just embedded option 4 only witch takes up all the usb drive.
What am I doing wrong? I must of missed something.

[b0ssman]

swap was introduced because in some situation the system would run out of memory and crash.

in a normal setup the swap usage should be 0.

[fizzgig656]

Yes. Swap was an option when I installed nas4free 9, but i could also install os with data but without swap. But I want to install 10 embedded without swap but have data partition.
I can only see the option to install os embedded with swap and data option 1. Or install os embedded only not data and no swap option 4.

Basically how can I install 10.2.0.2 embedded OS onto a usb stick and also create a 2nd partition on the same usb stick for data. I only need a little for transmission and own cloud files.

[b0ssman]

Install with swap then delete the partition afterwards.

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[fizzgig656]

Ok fair enough. I'll try it. Didn't need to last time. I'd of thought as it's not advised to have swap for usb due to read write burning out the drive, that installing embedded only and embedded with data would be quiet comon.
I shall try. Thankyou.

[fizzgig656]

Can I not install os embedded only (no swap or data) then create a new partion for data? Is this do able from gui?

[b0ssman]

you can do it manually from the command line.

but again you can do an install with swap. normally the there should be no swap usage. if there is you need more ram anyway.

[Parkcomm]

If you are desperate to reclaim your swap space you can always delete the swap partition and grow the data partition - it'll take about two minutes and is explained very well in the handbook https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/disks-growing.html

[fizzgig656]

so to check ive done this right and to answer any other "beginners" wanting to do this (took ne a couple of hours to get it right with google by my side? i know not even novice level)
i installed OS as embedded without swap (option 4). added the disk under management, enabled SSH and connected using putty. loged in as root.

ran: gpart show
showed i had da0 with da0s1 as the os

ran: gpart add -t freebsd da0
ran: gpart create -s BSD da0s2
ran: gpart add -a4m -t freebsd-ufs da0s2
ran: newfs -U /dev/da0s2

ran: gpart show
now displays
nas4free: ~# gpart show da0
=> 63 7821249 da0 MBR (3.7G)
63 1654632 1 freebsd [active] (808M)
1654695 6166566 2 freebsd (2.9G)
7821261 51 - free - (26K)

ran: gpart show da0s2
nas4free: ~# gpart show da0s2
=> 0 6166566 da0s2 BSD (2.9G)
0 89 - free - (45K)
89 6160384 1 freebsd-ufs (2.9G)
6160473 6093 - free - (3.0M)


now i can mount the partion using
Type: Disk
Partition type: MBR
Disk: Da0
Partition:2
File System: UFS

if you create an error you can delete a partition by using "gpart delete -i 2 da0" where 2 is the partition number within da0.

Anyone able to confirm this is right or is there a better list of commands i should of done?

[Parkcomm]

ran: create -s BSD da0 - should have a leading "gpart"

[fizzgig656]

Oops thanks.

[fizzgig656]

ok, had to rebuild and now this doest work? any help with why?
rebuilt using option 4 for cd.

setup SSH and putty'd on as root.

ran: gpart show
nas4free: ~# gpart show
=> 63 7821249 da0 MBR (3.7G)
63 1654632 1 freebsd [active] (808M)
1654695 6166617 - free - (2.9G)

ran: gpart create -s BSD da0
but get error. gpart: geom 'da0': File exists, sure i didnt get this last time, and if i try the next step "gpart add -t freebsd-ufs da0s2" i get "No such geom: da0s2."

any pointer or thoughts? what have i missed?

[Parkcomm]

error. gpart: geom 'da0': File exists, sure i didnt get this last time

Yep you have already created the partitioning scheme as shown in the gpart show output.

if i try the next step "gpart add -t freebsd-ufs da0s2"

This has two syntax errors

• You are adding a partition to da0 not to da0s2
  freebsd-ufs is not a valid type for the legacy MBR partitioning scheme

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gpart add -t freebsd da0

should work

[fizzgig656]

once again thanks, now created it and get, im sure i ran gpart add -t freebsd-ufs da0 last time, unless it was something i tried and failed..

gpart show da0
=> 63 7821249 da0 MBR (3.7G)
63 1654632 1 freebsd [active] (808M)
1654695 6166566 2 freebsd (2.9G)
7821261 51 - free - (26K)

im sure im going made, as i now cant run this?

ran: gpart show da0s2
=> 0 6234102 da0s2 BSD (3.0G)
0 6234102 1 freebsd-ufs (3.0G)

i get
gpart: No such geom: da0s2.

I can run gpart show da0s1 and displays details of da0s1, but i cant run it for the new partition da0s2?

im sure i ran it last time hence why i put it in my string above. thoughts please.

[Parkcomm]

That has me stumped - I can see the da0s2 - its the 2.9G partition. I have no idea why its not working.

I just ran the command myself and here is the output - could provide the same (cut and paste from your term):

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 mightymouse: ~# gpart show da0
=>      63  30949313  da0  MBR  (15G)
        63   1654632    1  freebsd  [active]  (808M)
   1654695  29294622    2  freebsd  (14G)
  30949317        59       - free -  (30K)

 mightymouse: ~# gpart show da0s1
=>      0  1654632  da0s1  BSD  (808M)
        0     8129         - free -  (4.0M)
     8129  1638400      1  freebsd-ufs  (800M)
  1646529     8103         - free -  (4.0M)

 mightymouse: ~# gpart show da0s2
=>       0  29294622  da0s2  BSD  (14G)
         0  29294622         - free -  (14G)

[fizzgig656]

ok, logged in as root.

ltbowers: ~# gpart show da0
=> 63 7821249 da0 MBR (3.7G)
63 1654632 1 freebsd [active] (808M)
1654695 6166566 2 freebsd (2.9G)
7821261 51 - free - (26K)

ltbowers: ~# gpart show da0s1
=> 0 1654632 da0s1 BSD (808M)
0 8129 - free - (4.0M)
8129 1638400 1 freebsd-ufs (800M)
1646529 8103 - free - (4.0M)

ltbowers: ~# gpart show da0s2
gpart: No such geom: da0s2.

[Parkcomm]

It's right there!!! Gaaah!

maybe try

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geom part list da0

Also try destroying and recreate. And try running the newfs command and see if that works.

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gpart delete -i 2 da0
gpart add -t freebsd da0
newfs -U /dev/da0s2
geom part list da0

Copy the output here (can you tell I'm running out of ideas?)

[fizzgig656]

from your first suggestion

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ltbowers: ~# geom part list da0
Geom name: da0
modified: false
state: OK
fwheads: 255
fwsectors: 63
last: 7821311
first: 63
entries: 4
scheme: MBR
Providers:
1. Name: da0s1
   Mediasize: 847171584 (808M)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Stripesize: 0
   Stripeoffset: 32256
   Mode: r1w0e0
   attrib: active
   rawtype: 165
   length: 847171584
   offset: 32256
   type: freebsd
   index: 1
   end: 1654694
   start: 63
2. Name: da0s2
   Mediasize: 3157281792 (2.9G)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Stripesize: 0
   Stripeoffset: 847203840
   Mode: r0w0e0
   rawtype: 165
   length: 3157281792
   offset: 847203840
   type: freebsd
   index: 2
   end: 7821260
   start: 1654695
Consumers:
1. Name: da0
   Mediasize: 4004511744 (3.7G)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Mode: r1w0e0

[fizzgig656]

and the 2nd option. still didnt work. shall i thry a new install? or try a install with swap then reinstall with just option 4?

can i complete delete the usb or will a new install do that.

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 ltbowers: ~# gpart delete -i 2 da0
da0s2 deleted
 ltbowers: ~# gpart add -t freebsd da0
da0s2 added
 ltbowers: ~# newfs -U /dev/da0s2
/dev/da0s2: 3011.0MB (6166560 sectors) block size 32768, fragment size 4096
        using 5 cylinder groups of 626.09MB, 20035 blks, 80256 inodes.
        with soft updates
super-block backups (for fsck_ffs -b #) at:
 192, 1282432, 2564672, 3846912, 5129152
 ltbowers: ~# geom part list da0
Geom name: da0
modified: false
state: OK
fwheads: 255
fwsectors: 63
last: 7821311
first: 63
entries: 4
scheme: MBR
Providers:
1. Name: da0s1
   Mediasize: 847171584 (808M)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Stripesize: 0
   Stripeoffset: 32256
   Mode: r1w0e0
   attrib: active
   rawtype: 165
   length: 847171584
   offset: 32256
   type: freebsd
   index: 1
   end: 1654694
   start: 63
2. Name: da0s2
   Mediasize: 3157281792 (2.9G)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Stripesize: 0
   Stripeoffset: 847203840
   Mode: r0w0e0
   rawtype: 165
   length: 3157281792
   offset: 847203840
   type: freebsd
   index: 2
   end: 7821260
   start: 1654695
Consumers:
1. Name: da0
   Mediasize: 4004511744 (3.7G)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Mode: r1w0e0

 ltbowers: ~# gpart show da0s2
gpart: No such geom: da0s2.
 ltbowers: ~# gpart show da0s1
=>      0  1654632  da0s1  BSD  (808M)
        0     8129         - free -  (4.0M)
     8129  1638400      1  freebsd-ufs  (800M)
  1646529     8103         - free -  (4.0M)

[Parkcomm]

OK this is weird - but what is happening is the partition (slice) gets created and the filesystem gets created - its all working.

gpart show is the only problem but that doesn't matter.

So you can mouth that file system now using the mount command. You need to create a directory first.

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mkdir /mnt/mymountpoint
mount /dev/da0s2 /mnt/mymountpoint

and bobs your uncle

[fizzgig656]

ok thanks, weird gpart show da0s2 doesnt work?

[Parkcomm]

Never seen it before - probably someone on this forum knows what causes it.

[fizzgig656]

Im at a point were i could rebuild, is it worth trying for sake of testing?

[armandh]

yes I know that N4F has grown past its humble beginnings.
back then, when memory was short, it just slowed down.
back then swap was an option, now it seems more of a crash prevention necessity!
so, rather than leave my newest on a USB stick, I moved it to an old/small 64 Gb SSD from the spare parts box.

even if seldom used, swap on a USB stick has to be the slowest memory since 1 Mb SIMM

[Parkcomm]

I'm not sure what you mean by rebuild - I thought you have installed Nas4Free on da0S1 and da0s2 is now available as a data partition. You can probably go to Disk|Management import the disk Disk|Mount and mount it.

Import your Raidz

The build a small zvol on that - and go to System|Advanced|Swap and select dev/zvol/yourZvolName

[fizzgig656]

I'm not sure what you mean by rebuild - I thought you have installed Nas4Free on da0S1 and da0s2 is now available as a data partition. You can probably go to Disk|Management import the disk Disk|Mount and mount it.

Import your Raidz

The build a small zvol on that - and go to System|Advanced|Swap and select dev/zvol/yourZvolName

I mean do i re-install N4F and try creating the partition again to see why "gpart show da0s2" worked the first time i built it but not on the latest build? i know its a bit of a drastic approach and i have created and mounted the 2nd partition but its not real hardship to do. It does annoy me when i get concisenesses.

[fizzgig656]

well ive had to start again following another issue( on another post) so deleted partitions, and still got the above error. install OS option 4, ran SSH and run the above.

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 nas4free: ~# gpart show da0
=>     63  7821249  da0  MBR  (3.7G)
       63  1654632    1  freebsd  [active]  (808M)
  1654695  6166617       - free -  (2.9G)

 nas4free: ~# gpart add -t freebsd  da0
da0s2 added
 nas4free: ~# newfs -U /dev/da0s2
/dev/da0s2: 3011.0MB (6166560 sectors) block size 32768, fragment size 4096
        using 5 cylinder groups of 626.09MB, 20035 blks, 80256 inodes.
        with soft updates
super-block backups (for fsck_ffs -b #) at:
 192, 1282432, 2564672, 3846912, 5129152
 nas4free: ~# gpart show
=>     63  7821249  da0  MBR  (3.7G)
       63  1654632    1  freebsd  [active]  (808M)
  1654695  6166566    2  freebsd  (2.9G)
  7821261       51       - free -  (26K)
 
  nas4free: ~# gpart show da0s2
gpart: No such geom: da0s2.

Any thought. do i formate the USB in windows or something to completely wipe the drive and start again? why does this one refuse to display da0s2?

[Parkcomm]

I'm getting the same behaviour - I don't worry about it, it works

[daoyama]

nas4free: ~# gpart show da0s2
gpart: No such geom: da0s2.

Any thought. do i formate the USB in windows or something to completely wipe the drive and start again? why does this one refuse to display da0s2?

This is normal if you didn't create partition on da0s2.
Correct and recommend way is:

# gpart add -t freebsd da0
# gpart create -s BSD da0s2
# gpart add -a4m -t freebsd-ufs da0s2
# newfs -U /dev/da0s2a


However, if you don't want manual tuning after using, I strongly recommend to keep swap partition.
The default swap area is also used for firmware upgrading as temporary storage.
So you must adjust memory usage not to exceed 1 byte.
If you don't have swap, you may need rebooting NAS4Free before upgrading to flush used memory.

Note: if you set your own swap on HDD, the default swap is never used(attached).

[fizzgig656]

cheers, some of that sound familiar, as you can tell im not used to doing this much, but do understand it as i go. ive updated my comment higher up so its "correct" as it were. both seem to work fine, but i must of done that last time but forgot the "odd" step.